Do you actually have to withdraw the handlers as in my experiments to see what caused the triarii to suck I found out that the dogs dieing effected the morale of the handlers and if alot of the dogs died the handlers routed without taking a single casualty.

I am on very hard and my entire force except for the 120 strong hastati were winded, the dogs were fresh, but my general (6*) was close enough for them to be encouraged by his something or other.

My triarii did take huge losses, you know the quick flash then numbers do to indicate near rout, each time it flashed visible the number was 10 -15 men lower.

The rout/massacre happened so quickly my general couldnt move the 40 or so feet to engage before the entire 6 units were destroyed.

dont know why the triarii did so badly though, its not that theyre infantry, and its not that thier weapon class is light, and its not thier spearmen status, and theyre reasonably heavily armoured which is supposed to semi negate dogs so how did they cause so many casualties...

I think I have right before the battle saved, though I may have saved over it, I will replay and see if I can get it to happen again

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