Chivalric Faction Leader?

**Musashi** · 01-23-2007, 00:10

I go for high chivalry on my king/heir... And I generally pick a branch of the family to be my "enforcers", and pimp them with high dread, so that they can be my dread general (Every chivalrous leader needs a ruthless underling).

**Flavius Gonzo** · 01-23-2007, 00:22

Hmmm... I think the StrategicChivalry and BattleChivalry line of traits are really hard to get quickly though. So, are StrategicDread and BattleDread for that matter.

So if you're in a situation where your leader takes over with like, 5 chivalry and 4 authority, you're going to be dealing with minor rebellions everywhere in your Kingdom for a long time -- it can take a while to put together a crusade/jihad and get your King on board, right?

Whereas, if your guy takes over with 5 dread and 4 authority, all it takes is a few turns of killing everyone in site with assassins and he'll jump up pretty high on authority and dread.

Is there no agent-based way to raise a Chivalric general's authority?

And then, with the Chivalric generals you all have described, do you just not use assassins at all, and let rival factions cruise into your lands with priests, etc?

**Musashi** · 01-23-2007, 00:33

StrategyChivalry is REALLY easy to get.

Just have your faction heir command your campaign armies, and release all prisoners after every battle. Easy as pie.

**TevashSzat** · 01-23-2007, 01:09

Releasing prisoners however is kinda bad though since you'll keep on fighting the same troops. Better off to ransom it since the comp rejects it alot of the time. That will only work well if you only release troops in order to gain chivalry

**Garnier** · 01-23-2007, 01:33

I always occupy cities and release prisoners, and dont use assasins, and I always get chivalrous people, and yeah my faction leader often has about 5 chiv and 5 authority.

**Musashi** · 01-23-2007, 01:45

Originally Posted by Xdeathfire

Releasing prisoners however is kinda bad though since you'll keep on fighting the same troops. Better off to ransom it since the comp rejects it alot of the time. That will only work well if you only release troops in order to gain chivalry

It's no great worry. The AI never retrains (At least I've never seen it retrain) so it just means it sends depleted armies after you.

And if you play your cards right there aren't many men left for capturing at the end anyway ;)

**pdoan8** · 01-23-2007, 03:05

IMO, Captor Chivalry is easiest to get. Ransom won't work all the time and I will be forced to execute the prisoners (should get another chance).

I got Battle Chivalry once when I won a fairly easy battle (I had 9 Knights unit vs full stack of peasants and militia). I couldn't chase down the routers because I was out numbered 2/1. As soon as the enemy unit run away, I had to redirect my unit to attack another target. In the end, I only kill nearly 300 (of over 1000 enemy troops) and captured about 50. I will try again to see if I can get Battle Chivalry again.

**TevashSzat** · 01-23-2007, 03:07

The thing is by the time you get to around turn 40, all you see is full stacks of militia armies, granted they aren't much of a challenge to any decent gamer, but they often mass rout incredibly easily once something important like a general dies so i am always left with about 1000 captured troops which is quite a lot

**Musashi** · 01-23-2007, 03:15

I never have more than a few hundred prisoners, no matter the enemy force comp. I just use lots of arrows. Even on fleeing troops ;)

**Von Nanega** · 01-23-2007, 19:00

Originally Posted by Musashi

I go for high chivalry on my king/heir... And I generally pick a branch of the family to be my "enforcers", and pimp them with high dread, so that they can be my dread general (Every chivalrous leader needs a ruthless underling).

I also tend to run the differant lines of the family with one with dread, one with chivalry. I figure that makes for nice family reunions!