Aquila first cohors

[Blingerman]

Well I love the mod, but I am very dissapointed I cannot build first cohors. Is there any minimod for EB that allows them to be produced? Are they going to be included in future versions of EB? Can I add them manually, if yes how plz?
Thanks

[GodEmperorLeto]

Can I add them manually, if yes how plz?

Build two units instead of one.

Other than that, yeah, I miss the legionary Eagle as well. It was a cool addition to the game.

[cunctator]

I've made a first cohort minimod for 0.81 that will be released shortly after 0.81 and they will be in all future official releases of EB.

[Blingerman]

I've made a first cohort minimod for 0.81 that will be released shortly after 0.81 and they will be in all future official releases of EB.

WOW wonderful news, are you going to release it inside:
EB Unofficial Modding Projects forum
If not plz say as I will download ASAP.

[Geoffrey S]

Just curious, what is the rationale behind their inclusion? Aren't they merely experienced normal troops? How are the represented in recruitment?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Just curious, what is the rationale behind their inclusion? Aren't they merely experienced normal troops? How are the represented in recruitment?

The first cohort carries the Aquila (Eagle) of the Legion, losing an Eagle is a big deal and it was also a rallying point for troops. So we are going to give you Eagles and let you lose them, then suffer the consiquences.

Additionally the First Cohort were bigger, tougher men, the hieght restriction was irrc about four inches above the legion proper. This won't be represented in game but we might bump up the skill stats slightly.

Finally, the cohorts will be numbered and available in Roma. This will allow you to number your Legions.

[abou]

Is there anything that can be done to stop the AI from recruiting dozens of them? Memories of BI leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

[GodEmperorLeto]

Finally, the cohorts will be numbered and available in Roma. This will allow you to number your Legions.

THAT'S FRICKIN' AWESOME!

I mean, all the other accuracy stats are cool, but to hear that you can actually build legio X Fretensis or legio XIII Clavdia has me fired up now.

Every chance you guys get, you impress me.

[cunctator]

WOW wonderful news, are you going to release it inside:
EB Unofficial Modding Projects forum
If not plz say as I will download ASAP.

I will make a thread in the Unofficial Modding Projects forum as soon as it can be downlaoded.

Is there anything that can be done to stop the AI from recruiting dozens of them? Memories of BI leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

In BI they were recruitable in every province, we will limit them to just Rome so spaming first cohorts should be no problem.

The unit strength itself can be only slightly increased from 200 to 240 the R:TW maximum, so no real double strength unit.

[abou]

That's cool then.

As a side note, weren't First Cohorts only double strength by Caesar's day? If I recall correctly there isn't any evidence of the size increase until Caesar's commentaries. Do correct me if I am wrong.

[Spectral]

I believe it was only on the Early Empire's that 1st cohorts assumed their double-strength figures ?

And how is this going to be implemented for the camillian or polybian army ? whhic unit is going to carry the eagle, triarii? ;)

[Xtiaan72]

Will 8.1 be compatible with 8.0 saves? Or should I stop my Romani Campaign now? I'm going to have to wait and start over after 8.1 if it's not. Great work guys.....

[Blingerman]

Will 8.1 be compatible with 8.0 saves? Or should I stop my Romani Campaign now? I'm going to have to wait and start over after 8.1 if it's not. Great work guys.....

As far as I know is not savegame compatible sorry

[Boyar Son]

What we all have to remember is, that we have to wait for the marian refoms which is gonna be a long time from 270 bc not ot mention four turns per year.

[Xtiaan72]

Well I'm pretty new to EB. So that's fine with me. I just don't want to get to far into my first campaign if this patch is coming out soon. I can feel your pain if you've been playing for a while. What some people have called for is a late period provincial campaign. But it's kinda hard to ask for that when they haven't finished the version we have....

[Xtiaan72]

THAT'S FRICKIN' AWESOME!

I mean, all the other accuracy stats are cool, but to hear that you can actually build legio X Fretensis or legio XIII Clavdia has me fired up now.

Every chance you guys get, you impress me.

I want to make a XIII legion too! I don't know if you keep up with that HBO show Rome but they basically follow around two centurions from the XIII legion. They actually lifted their names from Ceasar's chronicals of Gaul ( Pullo and Varenus). These two guys are actually singled out in Ceasar's writing for heroism.

I wish they got more in detail with regards to Ceasar and his relationships with his legions during the civil war on the show. There is this classic passage in Caesar by Adrian Goldsworthy ( a great read) when Ceasar is absolutely lambasting the XIII'th. It's right before his invasion of Africa to finish off the survivers of Pharsalis. Apparently the XIII was refusing to go because he had promised them back pay and hadn't delivered. He called their bluff, decimated it's leaders ( funny thing to do to your most dependable legion) and told them all to go home. At which point the legion was shamed and begged him to change his mind.

So Ceasar says he'll think about it and takes off to Africa with two less experienced legions and gets into all kinds of trouble. He sends for reinforcements and the XIII'th come to the rescue in the nick of time! The loveable, hot headed, kick ass XIII'th!

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I want to make a XIII legion too! I don't know if you keep up with that HBO show Rome but they basically follow around two centurions from the XIII legion. They actually lifted their names from Ceasar's chronicals of Gaul ( Pullo and Varenus). These two guys are actually singled out in Ceasar's writing for heroism.

I wish they got more in detail with regards to Ceasar and his relationships with his legions during the civil war on the show. There is this classic passage in Caesar by Adrian Goldsworthy ( a great read) when Ceasar is absolutely lambasting the XIII'th. It's right before his invasion of Africa to finish off the survivers of Pharsalis. Apparently the XIII was refusing to go because he had promised them back pay and hadn't delivered. He called their bluff, decimated it's leaders ( funny thing to do to your most dependable legion) and told them all to go home. At which point the legion was shamed and begged him to change his mind.

So Ceasar says he'll think about it and takes off to Africa with two less experienced legions and gets into all kinds of trouble. He sends for reinforcements and the XIII'th come to the rescue in the nick of time! The loveable, hot headed, kick ass XIII'th!

If you are a fan of "Rome", you will notice a bunch of little visuals in EB that come from or are reminicant of the show.

Pullo and Varenus were just based on realistic names from Caesar's legions though. The real Pullo was a centurian who eventually betrayed Caesar and died. (Btw, what can't Pullo survive? In "Rome" he has had wounds that would be mortal today and a half hour later he is back getting hurt again.)