M2TW: Worth the Price?

[fallen851]

I waited to buy M2TW after the RTW debacle, where bugs are still present, despite a community pointing them out.

But it seems like the same bug had bitten M2TW, and it will be a game with maybe a few patches, but largely unsupported, and with grevious bugs. This is unacceptable to me. Do you guys think that CA has changed their policy from RTW and will support this game?

Furthermore I have to upgrade my computer to run it, which will cost additionally.

Is M2TW worth the price for me?

[OMGLAZERS]

How powerful is your computer?

I wouldn't upgrade a computer JUST for M2TW (I mean, there are so many other games out there that need so much more power anyways).

If you do get the game though, to me, it's worthless without the proper mod downloads. Honestly, vanilla is just so buggy and unbalanced it makes me wonder what the hell is going on at CA.

[Lusted]

Do you guys think that CA has changed their policy from RTW and will support this game?

CA did 4 patches for RTW, and 1 for BI, all a decent size so not exactly lacking in support.

We already have 1 patch for M2Tw, another on its way, and CA is working much more with the community now, and is providing more help to themod community. So yes CA are supporting it better.

Personally i think M2Tw is the best TW game ever, i definitely think its worth the money.

[danfda]

While MTW is still my favorite, the second edition is very enjoyable, and much better than RTW. Thats my opinion, of course, and the game is still buggy, but there is so much potential for M2, what with mods and all...

[Snoil The Mighty]

The additional utility I got for purchasing M2TW on the release date has vastly exceeded it's cost in monetary terms and opportunity cost. It's all about marginal utility folks!

[Durallan]

I won't say anything until they release the final patch for the game because that wouldn't be fair on CA, judging the game that way (even if it should have been released fixed) because I think its what they do after they release a buggy game thats important.

Egosoft had a very buggy game released with X3 Reunion 1.0. VERY buggy. if you install the 2.0 patch the difference is simply astounding and puts my faith back in egosoft even if they were forced to released a buggy version by their publisher.

So I won't judge CA's character until they release the last patch for this game.

[redriver]

I waited to buy M2TW after the RTW debacle, where bugs are still present, despite a community pointing them out.

But it seems like the same bug had bitten M2TW, and it will be a game with maybe a few patches, but largely unsupported, and with grevious bugs. This is unacceptable to me. Do you guys think that CA has changed their policy from RTW and will support this game?

Furthermore I have to upgrade my computer to run it, which will cost additionally.

Is M2TW worth the price for me?

dead on.. ya hit it on the head bro!
and if ya think RTW was bad meet a new champ! don't recall RTW ever had that many glarin' gamebrakin' bugs this game has had on release!
also, RTW graphics are more than pleasin' especially if ya look at some mods that use medieval theme to make it more fair to compare...

my vote was a big fat NO. I didn't buy the game for 2 reasons:
1) don't have the hardware to enjoy the only thin' m2tw is good for - graphics
2) too many bugs and we already have mtw game.. with more deapth and features just lesser graphics...

[Lord_hazard]

It will be. Im sure the game will be fixed in due time. Just sad they the pubs had to rush the devs (atleast thats what i think is the most logical explanation.).

[Odin]

No it isnt. Most new releases now are mediocre beta's that get the label "gold" and they are put out. You buy a new PC game today at release, you can count on some blemishs. If you like the give and take of testing features reporting bugs and participating in solutions by all means shell out your 50.00.

Personally I dont want to be a paying beta tester.

[Bijo]

@fallen
What I say to you is this: don't get it. This game, wherein many bugs are, is not worth $40 or $50 whatever it costs (forgot the price already, I'd like to forget :P). Or perhaps it is, as it's become the standard to release buggy unfinished games?
Sure, it can be enjoyed, but you'll notice things are wrong therewith as soon as you start playing or when you just pay enough attention (which I wouldn't recommend). But if you decide getting it, just enjoy it (and I'd say don't come to this forum to read about bugs and stuff, heh heh).

[screwtype]

No it isnt. Most new releases now are mediocre beta's that get the label "gold" and they are put out. You buy a new PC game today at release, you can count on some blemishs. If you like the give and take of testing features reporting bugs and participating in solutions by all means shell out your 50.00.

Personally I dont want to be a paying beta tester.

Me either. I will not be buying M2TW until I hear all the major bugs have been fixed. It's plain to me I'd hate to play the game in its current state. There are some people who actually think RTW is a better game, and that says it all to me.

Quite frankly, I'm pretty much finished with being a fan of the Total War series anyhow. In my opinion the only really good game they put out was Shogun/MI, it's been downhill all the way since. I don't see myself ever buying a full price TW game again, in fact I'll probably wait until they are published by Red Ant Software for $9.95.

[Odin]

Me either. I will not be buying M2TW until I hear all the major bugs have been fixed. It's plain to me I'd hate to play the game in its current state. There are some people who actually think RTW is a better game, and that says it all to me.

Quite frankly, I'm pretty much finished with being a fan of the Total War series anyhow. In my opinion the only really good game they put out was Shogun/MI, it's been downhill all the way since. I don't see myself ever buying a full price TW game again, in fact I'll probably wait until they are published by Red Ant Software for $9.95.

I personally like the time period and I will buy MTW2 some time in the future. That said it is the rare occassion when a PC game is released without some issues (like the spear thing, or cavalry charges). Some guys love the interaction and contibutions you do when you get a early release game.

I tip my hat to them, personally I'll wait until the company patches up thier game to correct issues that should already be fixed. Lots of companies release games and patch later under the guise of "support" and why do they do this?

Mainly because the can, gamers buy the game no matter what. If it wasnt profitable companies wouldnt do it. I understand its a business model and by all accounts (the TW series as an example) its very successful. For me I'll stick with MTW VI with a mod, why? Because its an excellent game refined, patched and modded to get the most out of the system, just like MTW2 will be 6-12 months from now.

[Callahan9119]

i havnt read all these posts, but i said no it isnt worth the price; especially if you are forced to upgrade even 100 dollars worth of ram to play it.

if you started your TW experiance at rtw then u will prolly love this, as do some die hards who just love anything TW. i find it quite lacking in content and depth. besides graphics and diplomacy issues {that have been dying to be fixed since STW} there wasnt really much done to the game....although instead of making the ai fight smarter they just made it charge you right away, which oddly enough does seem to make the fights more challenging

i like the new map that rome brought, but i am still so mad that my favorite aspect of MTW was left out, glorious achievments, i have faithfully bought every single TW game since shogun, and if this was STW2 i would be perfectly happy to have only the option to conquer, as this is what actually happened to japan, but its just cheesy doing it in europe i think....and with each installment i see a continued lack of vision on the part of CA

i mean i wasnt even done with my first campaign as the english and i was already bored and thinking "didnt i just do this as greece"

the short campaigns are ok, but the long ones are so tedious and the fact that i'v done this for the past 5 years just makes it mind numbing...just waiting for a good mod to hopefully be made, or they make an expansion for this set back in japan, or a well made mod to this game adding a glorious achievments type game

if i could actually get online to play my opinion might be different, but as of now my cd key printed inside my game is "invalid" even after going to documents and settings and retyping it, but what else is new

[ASPER THE GREAT]

Well now, I have been playing war games for 30 years now. and the TW games are by far the best ever!!!! With the bugs included. I bought SG+invasion, ME+inv, Rome+inv, and even screwed around with the mods a bit. The price tag of $40 or $50 might be high for our younger players, but for an adult????? MEII is by far the best graphics, and AI that CA has put out and you can patch it all you want, but it still gives you hours of enjoyment . I wait till some games come on the market & read PC Gamer to see if the game will be worth the box it comes in (sometime the box is better than the game lol ). If you are posting on the ORG that says you play the TW games and if you did not buy it yet "THAT IS YOUR FAULT AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED". I say it is a must have for any war gamer of any age... GO BUY IT TODAY .

[Odin]

did not buy it yet "THAT IS YOUR FAULT AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED". I say it is a must have for any war gamer of any age... GO BUY IT TODAY .

I dont own the game, but have played the total war series a lot, I have been on these boards since early 04 and consider myself somewhat informed on current issues with the series. There is enough data on the boards, and history with CA that one can make an informed opinion.

Sure if you have the game your in a better informed position, but setting forth conditions by which to post an opinion and its validity seems a bit forward for a person on thier 3rd post.

Perhaps a little more cache before we tell others what they should be ashamed off?

[screwtype]

There is enough data on the boards, and history with CA that one can make an informed opinion.

I agree, and I'm certainly not going to go buy the game just to confirm to myself that it wasn't worth the money!