DX9(EX), DX10, XP, Vista, OpenGL, etc.

[Bijo]

There are some threads that sometimes refer to this business, but not really specifically how I want it.

So how are you going to deal with this stuff? I've read that DX9.0L (or EX) is going to be used by Windows XP as well as Vista, but I'm not sure 'bout it. I myself ain't gonna get Vista 'cause it looks like not only will it be a memory hog, it'll also not really provide any serious new system functionality (if I ain't mistaken). Th'only thing (personally seen at least) significant enough about Vista, to upgrade, is DX10.

So then comes the question: is DX10 really worth it? Is it really a major improvement compared to DX9? What are the real benefits?

I myself think DX9 is quite capable of pulling off things DX10 can do, but that's only based on various informations found 'round the net - stuff I recall.

Also another question: do you think they've made the most of DX9 up to now or can it be improved even more? DX9.0L comes to mind when I think of this, but ah...


And what about OpenGL? I hardly encounter games that need OpenGL, as DX dominates. Q: is OpenGL better/faster than DirectX (or could it be better if it's not at the moment)?

[DukeofSerbia]

There are some threads that sometimes refer to this business, but not really specifically how I want it.

So how are you going to deal with this stuff? I've read that DX9.0L (or EX) is going to be used by Windows XP as well as Vista, but I'm not sure 'bout it. I myself ain't gonna get Vista 'cause it looks like not only will it be a memory hog, it'll also not really provide any serious new system functionality (if I ain't mistaken). Th'only thing (personally seen at least) significant enough about Vista, to upgrade, is DX10.

So then comes the question: is DX10 really worth it? Is it really a major improvement compared to DX9? What are the real benefits?

That's how market and capitalism function. Sooner or later (I will later as much as possible) you will have to transit to DX10. They will force you. Hardware and software companies work together - we bring you hardware and you bring us games for that. If you want to play game how God demand, you need to buy new hardware. I hate that but what can we do about it!

I don't like Vista because of very high hardware resources but that's the price for technology improvement.

This insanity will not soon stop...

I myself think DX9 is quite capable of pulling off things DX10 can do, but that's only based on various informations found 'round the net - stuff I recall.

Also another question: do you think they've made the most of DX9 up to now or can it be improved even more? DX9.0L comes to mind when I think of this, but ah...

DX10 is drastically better. I watched short preview of Crisis in German GIGA TV and it looks unreal!

For some 20 years computer graphics will be like reality.

And what about OpenGL? I hardly encounter games that need OpenGL, as DX dominates. Q: is OpenGL better/faster than DirectX (or could it be better if it's not at the moment)?

Still there are games which use OpenGL. I think every game from id Software use it.

[Bijo]

That's how market and capitalism function. Sooner or later (I will later as much as possible) you will have to transit to DX10. They will force you. Hardware and software companies work together - we bring you hardware and you bring us games for that. If you want to play game how God demand, you need to buy new hardware. I hate that but what can we do about it!

I don't like Vista because of very high hardware resources but that's the price for technology improvement.

Hmm, about the market and capitalism is pretty obvious, but besides that.... Since Vista is such a system hog, is it FOR REAL to be called "technology improvement" (excluding DX10 of course in this question)? When I hear technology improvement I think "to better existing technology", but this sounds more like (as you kind of said more or less) forcing you to consume more of something which isn't necessarily "improved" or "better." I'm talking about streamlined products that are superiorly designed, and one question is if Vista is superiorly designed, to be a streamlined product.

Still there are games which use OpenGL. I think every game from id Software use it.

Yeah, that's true.

[Husar]

Well, I got Vista Business for free via MSDNAA, I will install it once I have asecond HDD since my current HDD is supposed to keep running XP at least until i feel Vista is worth completely migrating and runs all my software without big problems.
I already liked the Vista Beta but I am not sure about the full version, my graphicscard doesn't support Dx10 anyway so that is not really a selling point, only if games require it in order to run it might be required to use vista but on the other hand, that may just as well fire back to the developers of such a game if people refuse to migrate to Vista(and thus not buy the game) so I think it will be a while until they force you to have Dx10.

[TevashSzat]

DX 10 will be like all of the other new thing that pop out, nothing would be solely dependent on it at first, but eventually everything will switch over to it and you won't be able to get anything done without it

[sapi]

Unfortunately, dx10 is soon to be a fact of life.

That aside, i'm not bothering to switch to vista - i'm running bblean instead of explorer anyway so looks in the interface aren't really an issue for me, and the main improvements that vista brings are focused on the workplace