President of Israel accused of rape

[KrooK]

He did that or he didn't.

EDIT: Removed controversial view pending clarification. BG

[Vladimir]

I'll look for my link, please provide yours.


Got it: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070124/...rael_president

[Tribesman]

wow that means that Israel will for the first time have a female president (though only in an acting president capacity) .

Now wouldn't it be funny if the acting president tried to get on a bus and was told to go and use the rear doors and sit at the back like a good second class citizen , oh and to make sure that her attire is appropriate so it will not cause offense .

[Banquo's Ghost]

Since the president was born in Iran, it is clearly a plot to undermine the state.

[Vladimir]

Since the president was born in Iran, it is clearly a plot to undermine the state.

This seems like a conspiracy theorist's dream.

[Slyspy]

He did that or he didn't.

Applauding the taste of someone accused of rape. Nice.

[Vladimir]

And we're still waiting for a link.

[Idaho]

EDIT: Removed personal attack. BG

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Let's all calm down. While you may not have liked the sentiments expressed in the initial post, personal attacks aren't allowed.

[Bava]

Applauding the taste of someone accused of rape. Nice.

*coughs*

at least he´s in good company then:

Putin´s "Joke"

Excerpt:

As the leaders prepared to leave, the microphone caught Mr Putin saying "greetings to your president".

The microphone then went dead, but journalist Andrei Kolesnikov told the BBC he heard the rest of the comment.

He said the president continued: "What a mighty man he turns out to be! He raped 10 women - I would never have expected this from him. He surprised us all - we all envy him!"

There reportedly followed loud laughter among the official delegations.

[Watchman]

The topic itself isn't all that fresh, the investigations have been going on for a while already AFAIK and it was reported in passing by the papers here. Now they're apparently at the prosecution stage and the dumb bugger doesn't even have the decency to go down graciously.

I mean, seriously. The guy is up on charges for, quote, sexual assault, abuse of power and other charges, and he rants about "poisonous lies" and conspiracies ? Bleh.

Mr. Christian, punish this man.

[Adrian II]

Maybe a link to the Code of Honour (which Krook apparently signed) is more appropriate. Applauding rape is not exactly 'world class'.

[Idaho]

Let's all calm down. While you may not have liked the sentiments expressed in the initial post, personal attacks aren't allowed.

The initial post is allowed to remain and my post is removed? Are you kidding? So rape is a joke on this, but telling someone that they are being a nob for saying that is verboten?

[Idaho]

How about this?

Posts containing any generally objectionable material: knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening

[Scurvy]

As the leaders prepared to leave, the microphone caught Mr Putin saying "greetings to your president".

The microphone then went dead, but journalist Andrei Kolesnikov told the BBC he heard the rest of the comment.

He said the president continued: "What a mighty man he turns out to be! He raped 10 women - I would never have expected this from him. He surprised us all - we all envy him!"

There reportedly followed loud laughter among the official delegations.

this could have been more funny in Russian....

Maybe a link to the Code of Honour (which Krook apparently signed) is more appropriate. Applauding rape is not exactly 'world class'.

I think he was being sarcastic

[Banquo's Ghost]

The initial post is allowed to remain and my post is removed? Are you kidding? So rape is a joke on this, but telling someone that they are being a nob for saying that is verboten?

It wasn't BKS that removed your post, but me.

Your post was a direct personal attack on a poster. That is very clearly not allowed.

Perhaps wrongly, I have made allowances for Krook's English and how he may have been expressing himself in the first post.

[Adrian II]

wow that means that Israel will for the first time have a female president (though only in an acting president capacity) .

Now wouldn't it be funny if the acting president tried to get on a bus and was told to go and use the rear doors and sit at the back like a good second class citizen , oh and to make sure that her attire is appropriate so it will not cause offense .

They had a woman Prime Minister before Britain did. And as long as Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) women are protesting and fighting the segregation on buses, all is not lost in the state of Israel.

Now in future if they forced Katsav to move to the front of the bus and kept him there, that would be quite appropriate.

[Goofball]

The topic itself isn't all that fresh, the investigations have been going on for a while already AFAIK and it was reported in passing by the papers here. Now they're apparently at the prosecution stage and the dumb bugger doesn't even have the decency to go down graciously.

I mean, seriously. The guy is up on charges for, quote, sexual assault, abuse of power and other charges, and he rants about "poisonous lies" and conspiracies ? Bleh.

Mr. Christian, punish this man.

Of course, there is a possibility that he is innocent. In which case he should not be expected to "go down graciously" and is well within his rights to rant about "poisonous lies," wouldn't you think?

What was that catchy little phrase I heard once?

Oh yes, "innocent until proven guilty."

Having said that, I think he is guilty, but I'll hold off on the lynching until he is convicted...

[Watchman]

If he against expectations is innocent, he's doing an awfully good job looking like a guilty bastich...

Although I'm personally pretty sure he's lying through his teeth, I've nothing against him protesting against the accusations per ce. He has every right to, of course. What annoys the snot out of me is the utterly tasteless and ham-fisted way he's doing it.

[Goofball]

If he against expectations is innocent, he's doing an awfully good job looking like a guilty bastich...

Although I'm personally pretty sure he's lying through his teeth, I've nothing against him protesting against the accusations per ce. He has every right to, of course. What annoys the snot out of me is the utterly tasteless and ham-fisted way he's doing it.

I agree that the man certainly lacks panache...

[Orb]

wow that means that Israel will for the first time have a female president (though only in an acting president capacity) .

Now wouldn't it be funny if the acting president tried to get on a bus and was told to go and use the rear doors and sit at the back like a good second class citizen , oh and to make sure that her attire is appropriate so it will not cause offense .

Um... Golda Meir?

Or have I confused the technical terms?

[Don Corleone]

Um... Golda Meir?

Or have I confused the technical terms?

She was the Prime Minister. I wasn't even aware that Israel had a president until this story broke last fall.

[Watchman]

The office is by all accounts basically a decoration.

[Tribesman]

Um... Golda Meir?

Or have I confused the technical terms?

Yes , as Adrians post says
that was Prime minister not President .

They had a woman Prime Minister before Britain did. And as long as Ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) women are protesting and fighting the segregation on buses, all is not lost in the state of Israel.

Hey Adrian have you read any of the comment forums in the Israeli press lately concerning that .
Some very funny ones tying in conscription defferment to segragation .
Suggestions included making all military vehicles with seperate doors for women and redesigning military fatigues to make them less "sexually provocative"
All is not lost in Isreal or any where else for that matter , its just that nearly everywhere the loud mouth vocal minority views make lots of noise and get more leeway than they merit .

[Watchman]

Cor. Israeli military fatigues must be seriously different from the ones we use (popularly known among the troops as "leave time romance killers", "cucumber salads" and a host of other disparaging nicknames...) for anyone but the pathologically kinky and/or fetishistic to find them "sexually provocative"...

[Tribesman]

Cor. Israeli military fatigues must be seriously different from the ones we use (popularly known among the troops as "leave time romance killers", "cucumber salads" and a host of other disparaging nicknames...) for anyone but the pathologically kinky and/or fetishistic to find them "sexually provocative"...

Well since you asked

http://zahal.org/zahal_forum/viewtop...15206b03b0e416

Though seriously , notice the first picture ....bare arms thats a big no no for the extremist nutters , then you have uncovered heads , you can see their hair and everything big big no no , and more importantly ...trousers , it is important to cover the legs so that ungodly sexual desires are not stirred , but women in trousers ....a very very big no no

[Watchman]

I think I get the general idea.

And it does seem to be something of an universal rule that a functional uniform can't look like much.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

WOW! women in fatigues, get me to Isreal.

Bah! I knew a guy who had a fetish about combat boots.

seems like most politicians become sexual perverts.

OT: Has anyone noticed just how worn and shoddy those uniforms are though. They're not even DPM.

[KrooK]

ok to everyone who did not understand my post well
(especially to the one who censored it without thinking about it )

I didnt admire rape on these women. I admired their beauty.
Israeli girls are really beautiful. Its very bad that we can watch them only
on situations like this.

Furthermore they are quite heroic - accusing president must he hard.

So please read my posts carefully instead of censoring because this is more and more similar to USSR.

[Adrian II]

Some very funny ones tying in conscription defferment to segragation.

They can always tie all the Haredi by the sideburns into a Chain of Love and send them across the border.