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I'm confused on how Guliani is somehow better than all other candidates on small gov't and fiscal policy. There are other candidates who I agree with more, and who would be just as good, or better, small gov't wise.
Okay, that's an argument I can live with. From what I have read about the candidates, Giuliana seems to have the best record when it comes to managing the chequebook and cutting bureaucracy. Who would you propose as better in these areas?

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But I think CR's comments sum up a key problem with American politics: you guys seem to confuse voting for a President with voting for a Supreme Court.
It's not confusion - due to the increasing power the court has siezed, and Congress meekly granted, they determine what the consitution is.
It is confusion, because as you are demonstrating right now, the mere possibility that a President might get to appoint a SC Justice or two often becomes the overriding concern of the electorate.

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Yes, I understand that the President appoints SC Justices, but I would submit that this also is non-issue.
You'd be wrong.
Obviously, in your mind. But as I said, this is a problem with American politics. You're so worried about the Supreme Court that you elect guys President just because they don't like gays and they say they love Jesus.

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If you look at past Supreme Courts held a majority of Republican appointees, they still ruled on the other side of issues that are near and dear to Republican hearts when the chips were down, so electing a social conservative is no guarantee you'll get what you want.
No guarantee, but a much better chance than otherwise.
Again, demonstrating my earlier point. Voting for a possible SC appointee is en exercise in futility. Vote for a President.

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Where did the guy say so, anyway?

As far as I know, Obama's political stance is essentially unknown beyond his voting record, which is average Democrat,
O Rly?

Crazed Rabbit
See CR, that's what makes you such a good debater. Your ability to flow seemingly effortlessly from such astounding rejoinders as "You'd be wrong" to "O Rly."