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    First of all, I hate Baktria.
    Second, mines are way down in the future.
    Third, for all my own versions of every mod I play, I limit the size most cities can become. Making only major cities able to become a large_city and only Rome, Athens, and Alexandria (maybe Seleucia?) to become a huge_city. It is quite easy and only requires a change to two files.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    Third, for all my own versions of every mod I play, I limit the size most cities can become. Making only major cities able to become a large_city and only Rome, Athens, and Alexandria (maybe Seleucia?) to become a huge_city. It is quite easy and only requires a change to two files.
    What no Carthage? How could you forget mighty Carthage! You must at least have them or.....I'll spam your pm box!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus
    First of all, I hate Baktria.
    Second, mines are way down in the future.
    Third, for all my own versions of every mod I play, I limit the size most cities can become. Making only major cities able to become a large_city and only Rome, Athens, and Alexandria (maybe Seleucia?) to become a huge_city. It is quite easy and only requires a change to two files.
    So are you releasing this as a mini-mod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kalkwerk
    So are you releasing this as a mini-mod?
    If there is demand for such a minimod, I could.


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    im interested, but wait for the next build.

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    Metropolis Mod from RTR has change most Cities that they dont go over Lv 3...its possible and not hardcoded...same way to Walls that are removed from most Cities....only few really important Cities grow to lv 5 (like Rome,Karthago,Alexandria,Athen and some other) and have Walls.

    And Baktria.....every one Campaign in EB Baktria has overrun Selucids and all other in their way easily if you left them alone....around year 200 BC Baktria stays in all Campaigns, except one, around Antiochia and in North at Swaboz/Getei Border....Selukid AI hat never managed even to slow the Baktria AI a bit down.
    Same way with Potolomai....they overrun in 8 of 10 Campaigns easily the defense from Selukids and take Antiochia + all other City´s in the Region.
    So Selukid have lost everytime v. those both + all the minor´s...they are only Victims for them.

    And a other point, the stupid AI (from all factions btw.) has enough Money but build evertime masses of lowes level Units...Levy Hoplites as Greek, Millions of Punic Militia´s as Carthago etc.

    Its looks impressive all their full stacks but if you look closer you see a General..1-2 good-medium Units and rest all Militias...you kill such stacks of 2000 or more Soldiers and lost 100 or fewer of you Troops....at one Point i have look at a Carthago City in Iberia for over 60 ig years with spy´s in the Town...Carthago that has had no war in this time has managed to build 1 Bazar and 1 Temple in all this Time in the City (their last in Iberia) and 50 or more Units of Punic Militia´s....simply boring to fight such Enemies.

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    I think whether Bactria becomes a superpower depends a lot on Seleukia. Seleukia only seems to expand east if it is pushed out of the western half of its empire. When I played as Hayasdan, and took all of asia minor, the Seleukids turned around and wiped out Bactria. And Bactria wasnt small at that point. However if the Seleukids maintain a border with the Ptolies, they seem to fight against them by preference, and ignore what is happening in the east.
    I have to say, I also look forward to seeing the steppe peoples becoming viable factions. At the moment they are pretty stagnant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schatten
    Metropolis Mod from RTR has change most Cities that they dont go over Lv 3...its possible and not hardcoded...same way to Walls that are removed from most Cities....only few really important Cities grow to lv 5 (like Rome,Karthago,Alexandria,Athen and some other) and have Walls.

    And Baktria.....every one Campaign in EB Baktria has overrun Selucids and all other in their way easily if you left them alone....around year 200 BC Baktria stays in all Campaigns, except one, around Antiochia and in North at Swaboz/Getei Border....Selukid AI hat never managed even to slow the Baktria AI a bit down.
    Same way with Potolomai....they overrun in 8 of 10 Campaigns easily the defense from Selukids and take Antiochia + all other City´s in the Region.
    So Selukid have lost everytime v. those both + all the minor´s...they are only Victims for them.
    First, what is the main advantage to having fewer huge cities, is that it slows down factions that have more cities, in that they can't produce as many elite/stronger troops?

    Regarding the Selukids, I also have seen them often swallowed by the Potolomai, is this partly due to the Selukids being often attacked by multiple factions and been low on resources?
    If this is'nt the issue, would perphaps stronger starting forces in certain cities for the Selukids somewhat redress the balance around the Antiochia coastal area? It would be nice if certain areas weren't so predictable.

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    The advantage would be that not all regions make you silly rich.

    Also its to me a question of game atmosphere. It just doesnt feel right that some desert oase has the same size as Rome. I would like to see the potential to be only in the cities which historically developed to metropoles:
    Rome, Carthage, Anthioce, Alexandria, Byzantium, Syracuse, perhaps Athens, although it in our time frame really couldnt compete with those other cities in terms of inhabitants.

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