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    A couple of groups of university students threw MLK Parties at which they wore fake gold teeth, dressed in Aunt Jemima costumes and shirts that read "I Love Chicken," drank malt liquor out of bottles wrapped in brown paper bags, and ate K-Fry.

    Nice.

    I'm sure MLK would have been proud.

    http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?...1&f=00&fg=copy

    On the surface, I would normally write it off to "really stupid things university students do," but I have a bit of a harder time with it in this case because the video states that one group of students were in law school. Yikes...
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    It seems they're making fun of gangsters. But I guess that makes them 'racist'

    I thought it funny how the announcer said they had a racist party "where students drank malt liquor and ate fried chicken" - is it just me, or does that say something about what the announcer assumes about certain people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    It seems they're making fun of gangsters. But I guess that makes them 'racist'
    Really? I wasn't aware that Al Capone was reported to be a lover of K-Fry, or that Sammy "The Bull" Gravano liked malt liquor.

    Honestly CR, if you can't even acknowledge that these kids were blatantly making fun of black American stereotypes, then you truly have your head in the sand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    I thought it funny how the announcer said they had a racist party "where students drank malt liquor and ate fried chicken" - is it just me, or does that say something about what the announcer assumes about certain people?
    As stated, those are common stereotypes that almost all Americans are aware of. And parties such as these just aggravate the situation.
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    Well sorry I didn't specify modern gangsters instead of 1930s mobsters. They were making fun of black gangster stereotypes.

    As stated, those are common stereotypes that almost all Americans are aware of. And parties such as these just aggravate the situation.
    Aren't they more aggravated by assuming when someone not of the stereotyped race fulfills one of the stereotypes, they're being racist?

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    I have a cousin at Tarleton!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Aren't they more aggravated by assuming when someone not of the stereotyped race fulfills one of the stereotypes, they're being racist?
    Blacks are allowed to address each other as "niggas" if they so wish. Whites aren't allowed to address Blacks as such.
    Live with it.
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    Crazed Rabbit, it was one MLK day. Now, who else would they be making fun of? MLK did not campaign for civil rights for "gangsters" so that claim looses what sway it had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Blacks are allowed to address each other as "niggas" if they so wish. Whites aren't allowed to address Blacks as such.
    Live with it.
    Um...where did I say I had a problem with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Well sorry I didn't specify modern gangsters instead of 1930s mobsters. They were making fun of black gangster stereotypes.



    Aren't they more aggravated by assuming when someone not of the stereotyped race fulfills one of the stereotypes, they're being racist?

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    Whatever, man.

    Wearing a t-shirt that says "I love chicken" and a sideways ballcap while drinking malt liquor out of a paper bag is not making fun of black stereotypes.

    You're right.

    It was insensitive and racist of me to suggest it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman
    Blacks are allowed to address each other as "niggas" if they so wish. Whites aren't allowed to address Blacks as such.
    Live with it.
    "Niggas" isnt offensive "N****r" is. Besisdes I use it all the time with my black friends its not the term its how its said that is the problem. I fund the parties quite funny and so would many people I know. There making fun of ganagstas not blacks if you find the two synonomus you have the problem not them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
    Um...where did I say I had a problem with that?

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    Pretty much in the bit I quoted.
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    Who cares if they offend these "gangsters" ?The population I live around is 50% black, and alot of them "gangsters". Of course, gangsters is just another word for inept, stupid, ignorant morons who will achieve nothing with their life. Offend away...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    "Niggas" isnt offensive "N****r" is. Besisdes I use it all the time with my black friends its not the term its how its said that is the problem. I fund the parties quite funny and so would many people I know. There making fun of ganagstas not blacks if you find the two synonomus you have the problem not them.
    Really? So Aunt Jemima has a well known penchant for "bustin' caps" in people?

    Think about it SFTS, they took every black stereotype they could think of and combined it all into one big ball of stupidity, on MLK day of all days.

    Do you really want to defend this to the death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    "Niggas" isnt offensive "N****r" is. Besisdes I use it all the time with my black friends its not the term its how its said that is the problem.
    I express my regrets on not being quite up to date on American racial slurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holybandit
    gangsters is just another word for inept, stupid, ignorant morons who will achieve nothing with their life. Offend away...
    evidently.

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    Drunken college students, students of law notwithstanding, acting out stupid racially insensitive pantomimes doesn't exactly shock me. Some people just can't help but learn lifes lessons the hard way. Doing dumb stuff like this, on film no less, has a tendency to come back and haunt you later.

    Wait till Columbus Day, then they can portray abusing Native Americans. Mustn't be prejudiced now.
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    That wasn't a real party, they weren't even in blackface
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    Really? So Aunt Jemima has a well known penchant for "bustin' caps" in people?

    Think about it SFTS, they took every black stereotype they could think of and combined it all into one big ball of stupidity, on MLK day of all days.

    Do you really want to defend this to the death?
    Not really but I would like to point out while this may be insensitve Im willing to bet 99.9% of these kids aernt racist. Some of the older patrons here seem to be making race a bigger issue than it really is. I go to school everyday and hear things that if quoted here would cuase yall to have a heart attack (from whites blacks and mexicans) but at the end of the day were still freinds and we dont mean nothing by it. You sir are making a mountain out of a mole hill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    Not really but I would like to point out while this may be insensitve Im willing to bet 99.9% of these kids aernt racist. Some of the older patrons here seem to be making race a bigger issue than it really is. I go to school everyday and hear things that if quoted here would cuase yall to have a heart attack (from whites blacks and mexicans) but at the end of the day were still freinds and we dont mean nothing by it. You sir are making a mountain out of a mole hill
    Perhaps that was the impression that I was giving.

    I certainly agree with you that these kids are most likely not a bunch of rabid KKK supportes who attend lynchings on the weekend. And I also agree with you that it is easy for people who don't think of themselves as racist, and have a fairly healthy outlook on the unimportance of skin color to still do stupid things without thinking them through.

    My point is that this appears to be a case of extremely stupid groupthink taking over and ending up with very offensive results that now may damage these kids' academic careers.

    And to what end?

    It's a shame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofball
    Perhaps that was the impression that I was giving.

    I certainly agree with you that these kids are most likely not a bunch of rabid KKK supportes who attend lynchings on the weekend. And I also agree with you that it is easy for people who don't think of themselves as racist, and have a fairly healthy outlook on the unimportance of skin color to still do stupid things without thinking them through.

    My point is that this appears to be a case of extremely stupid groupthink taking over and ending up with very offensive results that now may damage these kids' academic careers.

    And to what end?

    It's a shame.
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    My point is that this appears to be a case of extremely stupid groupthink taking over
    I believe you have nailed it, Goofball. "None of us is as dumb as all of us".
    These type things happen when there's a competition amongst the peer group to be/do the most outrageous of them all.
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    Pfft He shouldve knwon better to mess with A Texans 1st amnedment that you know is the 2nd most important one. As for the word use it sound funny or stupid or smart its just a word stop putting the damn thing on a pedastool
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    People like to do outlandish things...

    If I use ghetto lingo, I'm not necessarily being racist... Many times, using stereotypes in a manner like that is just making fun of the fact that the stereotypes exist, not actual people.

    Frankly, I think that most black people do have different perspectives than the normal one, and I think they're often more interesting and down to earth because of it...

    I've only seen beggars or people wanting to be funny drinking out of brown paper bags... and so what if they do drink out of brown paper bags.

    Anyway, there's no way we'd be able to know they're real intentions anyway.

    People waste away their lives being way more sensitive than they should be. The fact that they are hurt by things like this alone shows that they're mostly just looking to be offended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    As for the word use it sound funny or stupid or smart its just a word stop putting the damn thing on a pedastool
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    MLK was not what he represented himself to be. Therefore I don't see anything wrong with students throwing a party in his honor and likewise representing themselves to be something they are not.

    Based on the original post I don't see anything racist about what they did and when I click on the video link I get:
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    ... and I don't wanna install any of that crap on my system. Hence this post is based solely on text in the OP.
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    No offence guys, but I feel it's a little sad you are discussing this and making it an issue, when you could just ignore a bunch of stupid teenagers.
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    They're not racist, that's what's so insane about this.

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    living here has really opened my eyes to racial thinking and group mentality. The oddest thing that I've found out so far is that black people aren't generally so much offended when a white person imitates the 'gangsta stereotypes' but they are offended when a member of their own race/culture feeds into that stereotype. The minority neighborhoods have really suffered a lot here in the last twenty years, and I believe that they want to establish an identity of their own, and quite separate from that of White Culture. Not only that, they want to be recognized that they aren't violent, pimping, drug abusers... so when an outsider mocks that behavior it cuts them fairly deep, which leads to animosity. I think for the most part the Blacks and the Whites co-exist fairly peaceably, compared to the Mexicans and the Blacks, the old 'hoods where Black Familys had their gangsta rivalries back in the day, have cleaned up quite nicely, but now they are threatened by another group to be tossed into the wind once again. A culture on the cusp of understanding, now exploited by the media, and the bedrock removed. I don't feel particularly sad for Black Society, but it angers me when they have been given opportunity, even more equal than my own opportunity, and yet we still consistantly emerge on top. The gangsta's live in this fantasy world where they believe they are at war, and in the end it's only lead to mockery, and disaster.

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    You know what? I say more power to 'em. We've lived under the ominous shadow of PC-think for too long.

    I mean, was the party offensive? Hell yes. It was downright blasphemous. It was a low, degrading mockery of Martin Luther King Jr and everything that he stood for. But you know what else? It's about time we got over MLK. Because our sacred cows sure as hell ain't doing us any good.

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