Agents + Family members

[Caerfanan]

If you are at war with a faction, but do not have provinces that border that faction's provinces, or have any ships in a sea zone next to any of that factions provinces and they do not have a Crusade/Jihad aimed at you, then they will become neutral again.

Thank you Agent Miles! I actually knew that, though, and I'm using it heavily with the vikings: nothing beats burning down the whole british isles, then put my boats int the Nordsear and take a drinking horn of dark ale. Two year's later I'm considered a total neutral stranger, negociating with peasant generals! :-)

I was more "complaining" about the fact that an emissary or a bishop were really unlikely to gain a cease fire or an alliance. I was surprised, for instance, to see the king of a battered two provinces-and-500-guys-to-defend-it faction refusing my cease fire offers. While at first, a lot of faction tend to build the more useless alliance that they can.

But since that moment a few days ago, one of my bishops did win an alliance with the vikings. Sio I guess it might have something to do with the "rank" f the agent. Or some unknown (to me) factors. I Guess...

If someone has any info on how an agent, apart assassins, gets it's chance to manage soething, or what can help to obtain this and that diplomatically, I'm really highly interested!

[Martok]

Watching over my father shoulder when he plays RTW, I was expecting the diplomacy to have become a wee bit more interesting, isn't it the case? I haven't played RTW much though, I'm so found of this Viking campaign!

There are far more diplomacy options in Rome, but the AI is ill-equipped to handle them properly. As a result, it's still just as nonsensical in its dealings with you as the other TW games. It refuses offers and deals that are clearly to its advantage, it makes demands against factions that grossly overpower it....the list goes on.

If someone has any info on how an agent, apart assassins, gets it's chance to manage soething, or what can help to obtain this and that diplomatically, I'm really highly interested!

Caerfanan, you might find this thread to be of some use. It's not an official guide, but it's still pretty comprehensive in covering the abilities of agents in MTW.

[Caerfanan]

Uuuh. So RTW diplomacy is a shinier non sense?



I'll check your link. Thanks Martok.

[Martok]

Uuuh. So RTW diplomacy is a shinier non sense?

Yes (unfortunately).

I'll check your link. Thanks Martok.

Happy to be of service.

[César Victor]

it makes demands against factions that grossly overpower it

The Gauls demanded on the third turn of my campaign as the Germans to become a protectorate. I just laughed in their face.