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    Merkismathr of Birka Member PseRamesses's Avatar
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    Would be great to gather all experienced information regarding managing reputation in one place. Searched for it and found bits and pieces here and there.

    So how do you raise your reputation?

    *I never break an alliance, unless the Pope orders me to.
    *I never sack or exterminate any population.
    *I always release prisoners which raises chivalry = high reputation.
    *I never set foot in another factions territory.
    *I always join every crusade/ jihad etc.
    *If you conquer a settlement and give it to another faction do NOT retake this again unless at war or your reputation will take a dive.
    *Destroying a faction will lower your reputation.
    *Making a faction your vassal will raise it.


    It seems that getting a high chivalry rating for your faction leader is the fastest way of raising your reputation. What´s your experience?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muashi
    *Having alliances and maintaining them increases your reputation.
    *Having good relations with a faction increases your reputation.
    *Having bad relations decreases it.
    *Having a high chivalry faction leader increases your reputation.
    *Having a high dread faction leader decreases it (So best to keep your main bloodline as high chivarly generals, and let some other line of the family be the bastard enforcers).
    *The best thing to do is to make alliances with EVERY faction in the game at the start, so that you have allies far off who you don't share a border with and who won't be tempted to attack you.
    *Give gifts to any ally who your relations decline with IMMEDIATELY in order to keep your relations at so-so or better (Preferably better, because that increases your reputation faster).
    *Pick a couple of factions to be super allies with, and push your relations with them to perfect, and KEEP them there.
    *Don't attack an ally ever (Ever).
    *Don't attack a non-ally unless they attack you first. In fact, don't retaliate even, only break their forces in your territory (This is good strategy anyway, fighting them on your home territory gives you the advantage because you should be able to choose your battlefields). If you let them keep entering your territory a few times before retaliating and taking one of their territories, you are much less likely to take a reputation hit. See, if another faction has a BAD reputation, you can attack them freely without losing reputation (In fact you seem to gain reputation for attacking them, as long as you're at war with them and THEY started it). So let them attack you a few times before you retaliate, let their reputation fall and fall and then retaliate. Additionally, the higher your reputation goes, the bigger hit the enemy will take if they attack you. I've seen factions go from mixed to despicable after attacking me just one time, when I had very high reputations.
    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore
    Reputation:
    - Occupy increases it
    - Sacking decreases it slighty, even against rebels
    - Extermination decreases it a lot, even against rebels
    - in addition, your pope rating will decrease if you sack or exterminate a catholic city

    I´ll update this post with tips so that we get a list.
    Last edited by PseRamesses; 02-05-2007 at 19:25.

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    Cynic Senior Member sapi's Avatar
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    I think that making your diplomatic offers 'generous' also helps, though i'm not 100% sure
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    Great idea. I would appreciate any info regarding this, for use in my upcoming "nice guy" campaign.


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    I don't break an alliance even if the pontificating meddler asks me to. It's easier to rebuild pope faction than it is rebuild reputation.

    Just because he likes to start a fight now and again doesn't mean I have any obligation to bail him out. Alliances are hard enough to keep as it is.
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    Having alliances and maintaining them increases your reputation.
    Having good relations with a faction increases your reputation.
    Having bad relations decreases it.

    Having a high chivalry faction leader increases your reputation.
    Having a high dread faction leader decreases it (So best to keep your main bloodline as high chivarly generals, and let some other line of the family be the bastard enforcers).

    The best thing to do is to make alliances with EVERY faction in the game at the start, so that you have allies far off who you don't share a border with and who won't be tempted to attack you. Give gifts to any ally who your relations decline with IMMEDIATELY in order to keep your relations at so-so or better (Preferably better, because that increases your reputation faster). Pick a couple of factions to be super allies with, and push your relations with them to perfect, and KEEP them there.

    Don't attack an ally ever (Ever). Don't attack a non-ally unless they attack you first. In fact, don't retaliate even, only break their forces in your territory (This is good strategy anyway, fighting them on your home territory gives you the advantage because you should be able to choose your battlefields). If you let them keep entering your territory a few times before retaliating and taking one of their territories, you are much less likely to take a reputation hit. See, if another faction has a BAD reputation, you can attack them freely without losing reputation (In fact you seem to gain reputation for attacking them, as long as you're at war with them and THEY started it). So let them attack you a few times before you retaliate, let their reputation fall and fall and then retaliate.

    Additionally, the higher your reputation goes, the bigger hit the enemy will take if they attack you. I've seen factions go from mixed to despicable after attacking me just one time, when I had very high reputations.

    High reputation does SO many good things for you in this game, it's worth doing the work to maintain it :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashi
    Having alliances and maintaining them increases your reputation.
    Having good relations with a faction increases your reputation.
    Having bad relations decreases it.

    Having a high chivalry faction leader increases your reputation.
    Having a high dread faction leader decreases it (So best to keep your main bloodline as high chivarly generals, and let some other line of the family be the bastard enforcers).

    The best thing to do is to make alliances with EVERY faction in the game at the start, so that you have allies far off who you don't share a border with and who won't be tempted to attack you. Give gifts to any ally who your relations decline with IMMEDIATELY in order to keep your relations at so-so or better (Preferably better, because that increases your reputation faster). Pick a couple of factions to be super allies with, and push your relations with them to perfect, and KEEP them there.

    Don't attack an ally ever (Ever). Don't attack a non-ally unless they attack you first. In fact, don't retaliate even, only break their forces in your territory (This is good strategy anyway, fighting them on your home territory gives you the advantage because you should be able to choose your battlefields). If you let them keep entering your territory a few times before retaliating and taking one of their territories, you are much less likely to take a reputation hit. See, if another faction has a BAD reputation, you can attack them freely without losing reputation (In fact you seem to gain reputation for attacking them, as long as you're at war with them and THEY started it). So let them attack you a few times before you retaliate, let their reputation fall and fall and then retaliate.

    Additionally, the higher your reputation goes, the bigger hit the enemy will take if they attack you. I've seen factions go from mixed to despicable after attacking me just one time, when I had very high reputations.

    High reputation does SO many good things for you in this game, it's worth doing the work to maintain it :)
    Thx for your insight Muashi. He he, I knew you´d stroll into this topic m8!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashi
    High reputation does SO many good things for you in this game, it's worth doing the work to maintain it :)
    I guess, a stupid question. What are those "good things" (besides being happy with oneself) that having good reputation gives a faction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musashi
    High reputation does SO many good things for you in this game, it's worth doing the work to maintain it :)
    I guess, a stupid question. What are those "good things" (besides being happy with oneself) that having good reputation gives a faction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by General Zhukov
    Great idea. I would appreciate any info regarding this, for use in my upcoming "nice guy" campaign.
    Haha nice one buddy
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    Last night, playing the HRE, the pope ordered me to cancel my alliance with Milan who where x-commed and my rep took a dive?! That can´t be right. Can anyone else confirm this?

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    Just because the Pope tells you to do something doesn't mean the rest of the world is going to praise you for doing so...

    You have to choose which is more important.
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    Destroying a faction will lower your reputation.

    Is this always or only when you destroy a faction military?

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    My cousin plays this on his comp, and i saw something odd the other day, he apparently was playing as the Apache (i think) and he was killing off the French, but he got that Faction Destroyed message a few times in like an hour, and it looked like they kept respawning the faction or something. Does killing the same faction over and over multiply the effect on reputation?


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    Quote Originally Posted by seari
    Destroying a faction will lower your reputation.

    Is this always or only when you destroy a faction military?
    also happens when you assassinate their whole family line in one turn

    as the moors I did this repeatedly and saw my reputation drop very quickly to levels that would disturb daffy duck
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    Does reputation requairements changed in kingdoms? French didnt agree to ransom back their soldiers and after this ive got reliable reputation (playing apache).

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    My reputation went down from Mixed to Despicable in a single turn, after destroying the Baron alliance (playing as England)!
    Don't you think it's a bit too much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVX BELLORVM
    My reputation went down from Mixed to Despicable in a single turn, after destroying the Baron alliance (playing as England)!
    Don't you think it's a bit too much?
    In an enclosed environment like the Britannia campaign your reputation is of little interest but I agree that the drop is a bit heafty.

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