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    Cynic Senior Member sapi's Avatar
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    Maybe it's interpreted as a sign of weakness?
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    Sacking and exterminating a settlement will lower your reputation but does this apply to all religions? Moving into the Holy Lands late in the game means huge cities hard to convert so you are forced to exterminate and sack them in order to control them. I´ve a strong feeling that it does as I seem to remember that everytime I´ve conquered the Holy Lands I´ve had a bad reputation. It´s a pity that your rep is only global, it should have been divided into religions too thus making you able to keep a good rep with factions of your own faith while fighting the heretics/ infidels.

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    Well if you want to take the "high road" and avoid exterminating, mob the region with clergy ahead of time to convert their population. This has additional benefits: they'll gain piety and odds of becoming cardinals helping you control the papacy, the local population will become more restless against its current rulers and could rebel on their own, and it can allow you to occupy which looks good for rep and keeps the population high for taxes and development.

    A god squad accompanied by spies and assassins can make a city rebel, really handy if you want the city without going to war with an ally who owns it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PseRamesses
    Sacking and exterminating a settlement will lower your reputation but does this apply to all religions? Moving into the Holy Lands late in the game means huge cities hard to convert so you are forced to exterminate and sack them in order to control them. I´ve a strong feeling that it does as I seem to remember that everytime I´ve conquered the Holy Lands I´ve had a bad reputation. It´s a pity that your rep is only global, it should have been divided into religions too thus making you able to keep a good rep with factions of your own faith while fighting the heretics/ infidels.
    HoreTore pointed out some clarification regarding my questions in another thread:
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    Reputation:
    - Occupy increases it
    - Sacking decreases it slighty, even against rebels
    - Extermination decreases it a lot, even against rebels
    - in addition, your pope rating will decrease if you sack or exterminate a catholic city

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    To more directly answer the question: Yes, exterminating a muslim city will lower your reputation, even if you're catholic. Reputation is a measurement of how every faction views you, including your enemies, and factions of other religions.

    The pope won't care, however.
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    Every faction has a different view of your faction, if you tend to betray or change the stance with another faction frequently the other faction will start losing faith in your faction
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    Well in my current campaign as Venice took Jerusalem ~1110 by crusade and sacked only, I have been currying favour with the catholic factions and this didn't change reputation.

    BTW It seems some factions have inbuilt enemies.

    for Venice HRE, BYZ (&Milan?) , I gave HRE&Milan 100 fl for 100 turns and both stayed reasonable though HRE attacked and Milan send heaps of spies HRE is now abysmal though Milan is still reasonable (after 32 turns of tribute). BYZ also attacked though its reputation with me was So-so(no tribute). Other factions are all reasonable .

    Of course also gave 100X100 to Pope and status is perfect.
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    i got a question

    when you send a spy agaisnt the AI and he gets caught sometimes the AI declares war. of course the human player doesn not get an option to do this. my question is in the turn the spy is caught does the player/AI get a chance to declare war without a reputation hit?
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    I was Very Reliable until about 20 turns ago. Due to various alliances, I have been to war with just about everyone in Europe (I'm English). Making peace with people doesn't work I paid the Papacy huge sums of money for ceasefire and reconciliation, to find that they had declared war on me next turn due to alliances. Same with other factions. So I eradicated 3 of them, (Milanese, Scots, Danes), and banished the French to their crusader provinces. I trained loads of cardinals, but still lost the papal election by 1 vote. The next pope was 38, so I assassinated him, and got elected myself.

    Fortunately I had lots of diplomats, and the English pope reconciled me. I allied with the papacy, ceasefire with Portugal, Sicily and Hungary, but remained at war with the French, Poles and then Venice declared war. But the papacy cancelled their alliance with the French so I hold all the cards.

    After all this I am 'decietful'. Bear in mind, not once have I declared war. I am best mates with the Egyptians, Russians, Pope and Turks, and am improving relations with everyone else. Can I ever get back to Very Reliable?

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