Stig's Aztec Kamikaze Rush Army

[pike master]

usually in one on one unit test this is the case but you must consider that a cav general is more powerful than a foot general and is worth several regular knights in his own right.

usually in multiplayer most players rarely have time to set up a good charge into a schiltrom but if they do they deserve the benefits but at the risk of ruining half the unit and snagging up a cav unit that could be used in the cav melee.

only a well lined up charge will smash a schiltrom and usually it can only do it in one charge if it has a general otherwise it can take several before they crack which is valuable time which could be spent doing something better with said unit.however even a well formed up charge by light horse can break spears.

but there are "other" formations of spearmen which have been found by some in other forum discussions that seem to work better versus cav but easily broken vs infantry.

[Demok]

see the problem with aztecs is that most othe rplayers take cav so you can just flank them and it's over.

[ElmarkOFear]

I agree Demok. And unfortunately, given the Aztecs lack of cav and only one missile archer unit, when somebody takes them, you KNOW they are gonna rush. There is no way to hide that fact.

If there were maps with mostly woods, then they might be a very good choice, but I am not sure if cav gets a penalty in woods or not. I know a lot of units get bonuses in woods, but I have no idea if cav also get a penalty like in STW/MTW1.

It IS fun to use in team games though, but to use it successfully is almost impossible when your opponent is of equal or greater experience than your team or has seen it before and knows how to handle it. Though I would imagine it would stand more of a chance of success if it was in the middle of a 3v3 game, with your two teammates being able to cover your flanks and throw a few units in front of any cav charges.

I have also found that, even if you rout the enemy, your units cannot chase them very well, and the enemy gets another shot at you. Also, by the time you have routed one opponent, your men are depleted in number and so fatigued they aren't of much use anymore.

I have heard from a few people, that the aztec spears are pretty good in certain army builds, but I haven't seen anyone yet that uses them. The Aztec army, from what I have seen, is mostly used for fun and not for serious matches.

[pike master]

it is of my opinion that the aztecs main weakness is their superior knowledge hence the syllable tecs in their name and that they were known as techs.

now as we know a technologically minded person needs time to figure out how to do something where a simpler minded person just does it. their main downfall is that they are not allowed the time in the battle to make the specialty weapons such as james t kirk used with the cane pipe, rope sulfur coal and salt peter trick with some rocks added to the end.

however as has been stated by elmo that the as techs are mostly used for fun because only a smart minded person would play for fun and play dead than play in an actual battle and die.

also todays technically minded people known as techs do not know very much about riding horses and without a car or some form of transportation they fill overwhelmed and lost. when they see the approaching cav formations they think that someone is going to offer them a ride back to civilization which is why they seem so fearless in the game in the face of a cav charge.

[ElmarkOFear]

LOL It took me awhile to figure out where you were heading with that post Mad Cat. Must be the Moonshine sloshing around in my skull. :)

I'm just glad you went with the "as techs" angle rather than the "A" with two "s" techs.

[Blaster]

lol the problem is the enemy has more than 5 cav....
if someone play 3 or 4 battles on M2TW with normal rules will understand that 90% of the armys has around 10 cav so this tactic only works if the enemy is a noob..If the enemy doesn't take cav probably the enemy took factions like England or scotland, Scotland with theyr pikes won't give chance to aztec infatary and Scotland can take many cav too , maybe only agains England this tactic will work but even England can take many cav..