Legless

[Blodrast]

Cynical or not Blodrast , that is walking on very dodgy ground .

What do you mean, Tribesman ? Could you elaborate a bit, please ?
Not being contrary or anything, I'd just like to hear other points of view.

Husar: Please read my statement again: I did not say legless people can not be beneficial to society AT ALL. I said that I don't see how a legless person can be MORE beneficial to society than a person with two functional lower limbs.

And while I agree there are exceptional cases (e.g. Hawking), they are just that: exceptions.

Note again that this does not necessarily reflect my personal views, like I said, I think that the multitude of perspectives this issue can be approached from may warrant a deeper analysis than a superficial dismissal (either pro or con).

[Tribesman]

Well Bloodrast , its like this , out of all the amputees I know only one is less productive /beneficial to society than fully limbed people , and he happened to be a walking bollox who was no use for anything anyhow before the tiger took both his arms off .

[Blodrast]

And the others are as productive as "whole" people ?
I should probably mention that I don't think I know any people with missing limbs...
Anyway, I didn't mean to derail the thread (wherever it was going)...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Impossible. Male children start to produce testoserone (sp) while still in the womb that changes their brain physiology. It would have to be the sign of a major birth defect.

It's a tiny part of the brain which is wired female instead of male. Wouldn't you consider being the wrong gender a serious birth-defect?

Tribes: You know some interesting people.

I think what Brodrast is trying to say is that removing a limb can only give you a disadvantage, not an advantage. Which is true I suppose, as far as it goes.

As someone who is currently sitting here occasionally gritting his teeth from the intermitant pain given off by his ankle and knee I can say I'd rather keep the limb, otherwise running would be a bit tricky.

[Tribesman]

And the others are as productive as "whole" people ?

Yep , it depends on what job they do though . While I know 3 stonemasons without legs I have yet to come across one without arms .
Anyhow you "exceptional" example is wrong , he isn't an amputee he has a nerve disease , perhaps Nelson might be an example you could use instead , or for Wigferth and his running worries perhaps Terry Fox .
Now I wonder how fast Fox could have run a marathon with one of the latest sporting prothetics(which are contraversial since they make people run too fast for the events to be fair on those who use the older versions)

But anyway , just for some feedback I sent this story off to a few people .
Responses have been pretty consistant .
Stupid cow mainly as an initial reaction followed by , isn't it just the same sort of mental disorder as those that weigh 6 stone and still think they are fat and if people can get their transgender mental issues dealt with in the health service then why is this mental disorder any different .

One persons views I would be interested in seeing on this would be Proletariats , but she doesn't do the backroom anymore .

[doc_bean]

One persons views I would be interested in seeing on this would be Proletariats , but she doesn't do the backroom anymore .

Women feel different about their legs than men ?

[Tribesman]

Women feel different about their legs than men ?

She works with veterans who carelessly mislaid some body parts .

[doc_bean]

Ah didn't know that.

[Fragony]

I fully expect some here to say that removing her legs would cure her.

That actually happens, it's a rather strange condition, these people think these limbs just aren't theirs. There is nothing else that can be done at the moment.

before the tiger took both his arms off

How did he manage to do that? Usually best to stay away from them.

[Tribesman]

How did he manage to do that?

An important lesson for anyone out there who may just happen to be completely absolutely unbelievably stupid .
If for some strange reason you feel the need to stick your arm into a tigers cage , when the inevitable happens do not try and retrieve your lost arm from the cage by sticking your remaining arm into the cage .

Like I said Frag , he was a walking bollox anyway , now he is an armless walking bollox .

[InsaneApache]

An important lesson for anyone out there who may just happen to be completely absolutely unbelievably stupid .
If for some strange reason you feel the need to stick your arm into a tigers cage , when the inevitable happens do not try and retrieve your lost arm from the cage by sticking your remaining arm into the cage .

Somehow, I know you're not making this up.

Maybe he should get together with the girl and start a club.

[BDC]

Somehow, I know you're not making this up.

Maybe he should get together with the girl and start a club.

Hers was intentional though, whilst he was just... Stupid? Not sure that's strong enough.

[Fragony]

Maybe he should get together with the girl and start a club.

That would be very romantic, they really make eachother whole again.

About very big cats and boundless stupidity, I can actually top this story. A few years ago the lion's cage needed a pointjob, the painter decided to come a day earlier. Of course, it's preferable that the cages are empty when you enter them, erect the ladder, and start painting, like they would have been had he not come a day earlier.

[Mooks]

Freak.

[Kanamori]

Yeah!

[Rameusb5]

Should Universal Health Care pay for the procedure?

Probably not. But it should pay for her psychiatric treatment.

[Blodrast]

Yep , it depends on what job they do though . While I know 3 stonemasons without legs I have yet to come across one without arms .
Anyhow you "exceptional" example is wrong , he isn't an amputee he has a nerve disease , perhaps Nelson might be an example you could use instead , or for Wigferth and his running worries perhaps Terry Fox .

I know, I know, I was just using him as an example to make a point about people with disabilities in general, not just amputees.
But yeah, I'd like to hear Prole's opinion on this, too.

[Ironside]

I suspect it's a "milder" version of what Fragony was commenting on.

They simply don't recognise thier limbs as thier own. An example that I did read about.
A man who had woken up after an accident had fallen out of his bed on the hospital. When the personal came to see he he told the following story. He had avoken during the night and then he discovered a dead leg in his bed. Of course he couldn't stand this macabre joke, so he decided to trow the leg out of the bed. When doing this, he discovered something even more horrendous, someone had stiched the dead leg onto him so he followed the leg onto the floor.
Well no cruel jokes were pulled on him, except the one where he doesn't longer recognice his leg as his own (it simply disappeared somehow).
(You can impale his leg when he sees it and he would still wonder were the pain came from)


As I said this is probably the "mild" verson, were the body simply sends out a big WRONG signal about the body part instead.

[ezrider]

a couple of courses of Electro Schock therapy, may sort her problem out, if not a few others she didn't know she had.


I wonder how people that were disabled from birth or in an accident would react to this news?

[Tribesman]

I wonder how people that were disabled from birth or in an accident would react to this news?

Sorry , I should have been clearer that when I wrote......But anyway , just for some feedback I sent this story off to a few people .
Responses have been pretty consistant .
Stupid cow mainly as an initial reaction followed by , isn't it just the same sort of mental disorder as those that weigh 6 stone and still think they are fat and if people can get their transgender mental issues dealt with in the health service then why is this mental disorder any different .
....the people I sent it off to are all either amputees or born limbless .