Any tips on playing KH?

[Zim]

Hello. Tried two campaigns so far as the Hellenic League and got my butt kicked both times(playing on the recommended VH/M). Those Macedonians Have tones of men, more cities than me, and never take a ceasefire!

I tried a Macedonian campaign, but it didn't feel quite right for some reason.

Does anyone have any tips for playing the Greeks?

Is it possible to rebuild from Crete and Rhodes? I quit both times after losing my last mainland city.

[king hannibal]

I've only been carthage but I've got everyones map information I beleive if you get rome and phyuss to make a craesefire phyuss may help you with macedon the greek AI on my campiagn has also gone for rhone and not sure if they have it at the beginning but 1 city on sicily

but I would get atleast some archer units before going there to defend your citys

good luck

[Quirinus Kuhlmann]

I think it's important to get Crete very quick to build up your economy by sea trade. Then you have to sent as much troops as possible back to the mainlands. Try an alliance with Epiros. They are at war with macedonia too and you could be lucky.
In my early campaign I then conquered Korinth and the Macedoneans took Athens from me shortly after that. But at that time my economy was out of the red and I could built up an army, that pushed back the macedoneans in a close decisive battle, so I retook Athens soon.
As the Macedoneans were occupied with Epiros too, I was quite safe at that moment.
Good luck with your campaign!

[Zim]

I think it's important to get Crete very quick to build up your economy by sea trade. Then you have to sent as much troops as possible back to the mainlands. Try an alliance with Epiros. They are at war with macedonia too and you could be lucky.
In my early campaign I then conquered Korinth and the Macedoneans took Athens from me shortly after that. But at that time my economy was out of the red and I could built up an army, that pushed back the macedoneans in a close decisive battle, so I retook Athens soon.
As the Macedoneans were occupied with Epiros too, I was quite safe at that moment.
Good luck with your campaign!

Thank you for the tips, but luck was not with me.

I did manage to get Krete, but Athens found itself sieged before I could bring my men back to the mainland. Then I saw a giant Macedonian army coming for Sparta. I evacuated my men from Sparta and grabbed Lesbos. Lousy Epeirotes(Epeirites?) allied with me and agreed to attack Macedonia but they took forever have get around to it.

Now I find myself in command of 3 islands(Crete, Rhodos, and Lesbos), and making a decent chunk of money again. I have my diplomat wandering around Greece. Looks like Epiros might finally be going after the Macedonians. I did get a ceasefire with Macedonia. Can't decide whether to build an army and try to get Athens, Corinth and Sparta back or take a chance and invade elsewhere(Maybe along the Black Sea?)

Getai hasn't expanded yet and even with the money injections from the script and the VH difficulty setting, they can only afford about a stack from their one province. Does anyone know if KH can build decent troops from provinces in that area?

I could post some screenshots from my game tonight, maybe a bit of campaign history. Record my blunders for posterity, kind of a Zim45's unguide to KH.

[Quirinus Kuhlmann]

I think you should try to reconquer Sparta and Athens. There you have to face Macedonia alone, and you will not have any trouble with public order, because the people are glad, that you're back again. It's also a question of honour...
If you go for the Poleis along the black sea, you have to face full Eleutheroi garnisons nearly everywhere and to deal with hostile inhabitants.
It is also not advisable to go to Minor-Asia yet, because you would get into trouble with Arche Seleukeia, Ptolemaioa and Pontos soon, which is much worse than the Macedons alone.
The getan territories are poor barbaric villages. I didn't conquer them yet, and I think it's not a good idea in early game. Everything full of horrible independent falxmen. One of the best units in the area are the Thrakian Mercenaries, a combination between heavy peltasts and falxmen, which you should hire, if you can afford them.
I think you should be patient, built up your army until the cash is empty and then concentrate on beating those Macedonian hillbillies out of your beautiful hometowns. Send a spy to them before, and check out the area. They are not as strong as the pretend to be!
Good luck again.

[Geoffrey S]

Just for the heck of it, why not attempt to take Sicily? At the very least it should provide an interesting and original campaign. Or you could go for the Krim. That should be easier to hold while isolated from other factions, and to continue to build your economy.