Doesn't look like you need such big measures to takle the thieves guild, Foz.

I'm well into my new campaign, and I have yet to see a thieves guild, nor being offered one!

The results as of now:

- None of my own cities offered thieves guild
- No guild in AI Lisbon, Pamplona or Leon
- Swordsmith Guild in AI Toledo, a castle
- THEOLOGIANS guild in Portugese Zaragoza!

I myself have not gotten round to building up an agent network, only trained 3 spies, which I've only used semi-active. However, the fact that Portugal built a theologians guild instead of a thieves guild in Zaragoza is very promising!

I'll know for sure soon, I'm about to enter war with the Milanese who have taken over all of France, and I finally have enough cash to train a bunch of spies.