parthian cav army of death

**pike master** · 01-31-2007, 19:04

i am referring to mtw2 cav formations resembling parthian all horse armies.

**ElmarkOFear** · 01-31-2007, 20:45

Greyfox is being humorous. :)

This is beyond my scope of expertise.. I will have to leave this to others more knowledgeable than myself on using and/or defending against M2TW cav armies. The only way I have found, is by taking a cav army myself, but I am lousy at maneuvering cav, so it doesn't help much.

**Dionysus9** · 01-31-2007, 21:32

Well pikes in spear wall do a good job of stopping cav, but they are helpless against HA and are vulnerable to attack from behind-- so you'd have to make a circle of pikes and park enough long range archers inside to hold off the HA. (I'm thinking Scotland with elite archers). It would be fun to try-- but if the enemy took swords rather than all cav you'd be a goner.

**pike master** · 01-31-2007, 22:32

ive noticed horse archers in shooting circle are nearly impossible to hit as compared to in rome. i read in thread in the single player forum that this has something to do with game calculations based on whether the projectile will hit or miss a selected individual and is not factoring in collateral hits.ie random hits.

**RTKBarrett** · 01-31-2007, 23:12

Originally Posted by mad cat mech

ive noticed horse archers in shooting circle are nearly impossible to hit as compared to in rome. i read in thread in the single player forum that this has something to do with game calculations based on whether the projectile will hit or miss a selected individual and is not factoring in collateral hits.ie random hits.

Xbows make short work of cantabarian... and its not a bad thing as cav in cantabarian are INCREDIBLY innacurate, far more so than those from RTW/BI.

**Vladimir** · 01-31-2007, 23:43

1: No trees or hills

2: Trees and hills

**Dionysus9** · 02-01-2007, 05:42

It sounds like you are also talking about the click behind bug, which I dont know how to counter that except with other cav. Anyone who uses the bug on purpose should be ashamed of themselves, but I see it all the time. Once in a while it might happen on accident I suppose-- sometimes if I'm sounding a full charge I might double click behind the enemy to make sure none of my units stop in front of the enemy army-- but then I go back, unit by unit and direct them into their targets. Once in a while I may miss one or two but it does happen.

As far as the "almost all cav" armies that are coming up more and more regularly, I dont think anyone has been able to find an effective counter army except for a similar cav-heavy army. I suppose you could take ALL PIKES in spearwall, and create a pike circle. Simply stand your ground. Refuse to budge. Dont move an inch, endure the jeers of the cav spammer, and wait it out. But even then the cav can just walk into your formations (and avoid the spearwall) and may be able to win on stats alone.

Actually that bears some testing. If an all pike army in a circle on spear-wall cannot beat a similarly priced cav army then there is something massively wrong with the balance.