The Midgard Saga [Concluded]

[Csargo]

More lies?

Just because your death proves no innocence?

Enjoy your time in Asgard, I'll be there as well Jotun...

I blame Andres.

[Husar]

Now this is a real mess...

[Csargo]

That is their nature
Clan now created
Giants?
Really?
Shows what I know.
Sigurd, can Jotun go to Valhalla?
Jotun = Giants?
Yes
not in my story
damn, sorry Ichigo
oh
:(
they might have giant strenght but hardly gigantic size
just to clarify
Valhalla is a building in Asgard
hmm
it is the hall of Odin with Gold roof
Freya would put up more of a fight then this wouldn't she?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._and_Freia.jpg
jotun will invade Asgard now and then
so yes technically they can go to Asgard
sounds like that guard is a slacker
There is a story in the Norse mythology where Odin disapears for a while
his brothers take the seat of Valhall

Bad RR

[GeneralHankerchief]

Challenge: pevergreen

If I get destroyed, so be it. But if I do, at least a Jotun will be revealed.

(My Holmgang skill is 2)

[Andres]

After Ichigo posted the chatlog, this was the conversation:

you took that chatlog and higlighted out of context Ichi
hehehe
SHHHHHHHH
you're a funny guy Ichi :P
my answer was not to Andres question
That was disco's question :P
I am allowing it
Hey if Loki can make up PM's then I can make false statements
I shall not comment on this in the thread
* Thor cheers

Oh, Thor = Ichigo

Posted by Ichigo at 22.17 - post 993 (I'm just mentioning this, in case he edits his post after this one comes up), I highlighted otherwise than Ichigo.

That is their nature
Clan now created
Giants?
Really?
Shows what I know.
Sigurd, can Jotun go to Valhalla?
Jotun = Giants?
Yes
not in my story
damn, sorry Ichigo
oh
:(
they might have giant strenght but hardly gigantic size
just to clarify
Valhalla is a building in Asgard
hmm
it is the hall of Odin with Gold roof
Freya would put up more of a fight then this wouldn't she?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._and_Freia.jpg
jotun will invade Asgard now and then
so yes technically they can go to Asgard
sounds like that guard is a slacker
There is a story in the Norse mythology where Odin disapears for a while
his brothers take the seat of Valhall

Nah, we did the right thing lynching Ichigo after all.

[Csargo]

After Ichigo posted the chatlog, this was the conversation:




Oh, Thor = Ichigo

Posted by Ichigo at 22.17 - post 993 (I'm just mentioning this, in case he edits his post after this one comes up), I highlighted otherwise than Ichigo.





Nah, we did the right thing lynching Ichigo after all.

That second part proves that Jotun don't go to Asgard when they die.

[KukriKhan]

Quite a few words from one who shall post no more. Just an observation.

Tell me if I get any of the following wrong:

From Sigurd's OP:

The Jotun’s main object is to kill the 6 lords + any pro town roles. If they are able to do so they will win.

and

The Roles:
6 Lords – this will be the Jarls and petty kings of Hordaland
3 Jotun – the Mafiosi
(unknown number of) Pro-town roles
(unknown number of) Townies

We started with 32 players. 10 are now dead. 2 of those dead (Redleg {murdered} & HughTower {Holmganged by Redleg}) claim convincingly to have been Lords, leaving, of the 22 survivors:

4 Lords
3 Jotun
? Gods/other pro-town
?? townies

So, 19 of us must find and kill the 3 unrevealed bad-guys (assuming all 3 still live, at this time).

I think our (anti-Jotun coalition) best strategy is to sort out

a) who is convincingly townie (by revealing themselves publicly)
b) Lords to privately reveal themselves to those they are convinced are "real" townies.
c) Use the process of elimination to compile a list of most-likely bad-guys.

Worst that can happen is that more innocent townies get killed by revealing their vulnerability - but the Lords are protected, saving the game from the Jotun.

Hmmm. Now to decide how best to implement, with minimal innocent blood.

Are any of the above stats, numbers or assumptions incorrect?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

No one listens to me :/

Just to clarify though: jotun don't get taken by valkyries? That would confirm pevergreen.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Jotuns, when they die, will go to Jotunheim or possibly Helheim. The townies will go to Valhalla. Any gods in the world of men will be returned to Asgard.

Well, this is getting old, but I will not be swayed until he defends himself. I am convinced I've latched onto a Jotun, and will not break my grip for anything but the truth:

Challenge: Omanes

What the heck are you doing Don? It's pretty much established he is one of the lords - the good guys, who we don't want to die.

Ichigo seems to be getting a better choice for lynching by the minute.

Challenge: Sasaki

Now you'll answer for your defense of Ichigo.

EDIT; Kurkri - it would probably be best for the reveals like you suggest to be done privately, to someone we know is innocent, like Seamus, so Jotun can't copy reveals. They may have fake townie PMs, though.

Crazed Rabbit

[Csargo]

Capo screwed you guys up completely

[KukriKhan]

So post #1,000 goes to the dead guy who said, 23 posts ago:

Your Faces. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah Ahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha

I hope you all realize you have lost a valuable townie. I shall post no more.

Murphey lives!

No challenge from me; I am a mere townie - though a war-vet.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Didn't Ichigo just get confirmed innocent? Or did I miss something.

[Sigurd]

1000 posts... WOHOOO

[Seamus Fermanagh]

EDIT @Don Corleone: I didn't realise Hungarian is the same as suspicious

He's had some horrific MTW flashbacks these past few weeks --something about losing to the Hungarians with the Byzantines once -- we've been trying to find him an appropriate 12-step group....

[Don Corleone]

CR, how is Omanes confirmed as a Lord? Did I miss a defense beyond him sending a PM to Hugh, who then said "Yep, I think he's a Lord"?

Ever dawn on people that Hugh meant well but was misled?

As for innocent, I was attacked by the Jotun. I'm a warrior, nothing fancy.

[Don Corleone]

He's had some horrific MTW flashbacks these past few weeks --something about losing to the Hungarians with the Byzantines once -- we've been trying to find him an appropriate 12-step group....

I thought Andres was Hungarian. Turns out he's Belgian. Isn't there a frequent poster that's from Hungary?

[Crazed Rabbit]

CR, how is Omanes confirmed as a Lord? Did I miss a defense beyond him sending a PM to Hugh, who then said "Yep, I think he's a Lord"?

Ever dawn on people that Hugh meant well but was misled?

As for innocent, I was attacked by the Jotun. I'm a warrior, nothing fancy.

Don - he posted this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=903

Hughtower was confirming pevergreen's innocence.

Didn't Ichigo just get confirmed innocent? Or did I miss something.

No. He's using misleading chat logs after his death, too.

CR

[Don Corleone]

I'm not convinced. He did a lot of weird things early on, like randomly voting, voting for somebody on scant info, the like. When I called him on it, rather than responding, he just started making accusations against me.

Though I'll be honest, I don't have any hard information that he's a Jotun. Damn, back to square one.

[pevergreen]

Challange: Sasaki Reasons are further back.

I saw Redlegds PM. Is that the entire thing? No Fluff left out? Becuase mine was a lot bigger.

I have a higher score than that, I know, but maybe Hughtower can PM our Family/House name to me, so I can post it here? Is that allowed.

[Proletariat]

I'm sorry, but how has Ichi been proven innocent?

Sorry I've been quiet in the thread. Been busy with real life the last few days, but I've been doing a little networking via PM before that.

I'll accept your challenge, Warluster, but you're better off challenging someone who might be Jotun.

[Redleg]

Challange: Sasaki Reasons are further back.

I saw Redlegds PM. Is that the entire thing? No Fluff left out? Becuase mine was a lot bigger.

I have a higher score than that, I know, but maybe Hughtower can PM our Family/House name to me, so I can post it here? Is that allowed.

Only thing left out was the Champion's name and the Holmgang information that Sigurd forgot to include in mine.

[pevergreen]

That was at the end. I had a lot more in the middle, as well as a higher Holmgang score.

I think I came here to stop you and another group from doing something.

[Kagemusha]

Challenge Pevergreen. I think that your Jotun head needs to be put on a pike after i have hacked it of with my axe.

[Csargo]

Don - he posted this:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=903

Hughtower was confirming pevergreen's innocence.


No. He's using misleading chat logs after his death, too.
CR

Misleading? I bolded some stuff that's all. Just because I bolded something that I thought Sigurd was answering I was mistaken. The second part is pretty simple. And this:

A Jotun, in Norse mythology, is a giant, one of a mythological race with superhuman strength, described as standing in opposition to the gods

Yes, of course the Gods would let a Jotun into Valhalla it's not like their the God's enemies or anything. Common sense people.

Why don't you ask RR what he edited out of that post earlier.

[Redleg]

That was at the end. I had a lot more in the middle, as well as a higher Holmgang score.

I think I came here to stop you and another group from doing something.

Oh I was out to stop jotun - I think your still attempting to decieve however. But since I can't vote or challenge you can take the information for what it is. The Jarl PM is accurate minus the alreadly stated edit.

The question however is what are you attempting to hide. If your the second king your reveal of having an outragous holmgang score begins to make sense with the formula that Sigurd is using. Lord 5 +King 1 = 6, add an additional factor such as master swordsman or having one previous holmgang your score could very well be 7 or 8. I know that the holmgang that I won raised my score by 1.

So there is a formula that Sigurd uses to calulate the Holmgang rating. Claiming to be a Jarl with the holmgang you claim to have is rather high.

Now your claiming your PM was bigger then mine - that fine, was it as big or was it bigger then Omanes's king PM which he has alreadly revealed?

The clue is in what Hughtower has alreadly stated - he stated he served his "king."

Now if you can verifiy that information - then the gathering now has to protect its two kings from harm - in order to do that - people have to kind of follow the course that Kurki outlined - and the tactic that we are currently pursueing, which is to figure out who is lieing about their role.

Most can not do it on the thread because it allows the jotun players to also figure out who is who.

So the remaining players need to confirm the two kings and begin to use them as the base to confirm the idenity of others.

This was the sole reason why I revealed early that I was a jarl I knew it would get me targeted by the jotun - but it should enable others to begin to cross-talk to figure out who is who.

In fact I can name four confirmed townie players alreadly - and four possible pro-townie. If you care to have that information I will gladly share it with you via PM - if and when you can confirm your idenity in this thread.

[Stig]

Vote: Pevergreen tomorrow, just because he should be killed today

And because Jotun will mostlikely have a higher Holmgang then me I won't challenge him

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Doesn't the death description have a valkryie taking Ichigo to the building with the golden roof (valhalla)? Asgard the Jotun can go to but not valhalla. I'm also pretty sure Reenk confessed and then removed it with that post with the jester guy.

[Csargo]

Doesn't the death description have a valkryie taking Ichigo to the building with the golden roof (valhalla)? Asgard the Jotun can go to but not valhalla. I'm also pretty sure Reenk confessed and then removed it with that post with the jester guy.

Aye, he did. Like it said in the chatlot I posted the Jotun can get into Asgard if they invade. Since the Jotun and Gods are opposing each other it is doubtful that a Jotun would ride into Valhallo on a stallion with a beautiful woman (no matter what here hair color is Andres ~:P)

[Reenk Roink]

Yes, of course the Gods would let a Jotun into Valhalla it's not like their the God's enemies or anything. Common sense people.

Why don't you ask RR what he edited out of that post earlier.

Dude, how many times are you gonna get caught tampering with people's words.

I edited out a harsh comment towards you after AndersTheCunning validated me once again. With proof, I don't need to use personal attacks.

[Csargo]

Dude, how many times are you gonna get caught tampering with people's words.

I edited out a harsh comment towards you after AndersTheCunning validated me once again. With proof, I don't need to use personal attacks.

There's gotta be somebody around who read your confession. Andres validated nothing other than question whether your innocent or not when your lynched.