The Fourth Age: Total War - Forth Eorlingas Released!

[Hobbit Hassling Human Heavies]

Certainly mr Guldur sir :P

yep you guys have my respect for the work you put in to such things, i hope everyone respects that, its a lot of man hours when people do such things.

Not sure if i could help though id be willing to...

I used to make Mods for elder scrolls morrowind but i suppose im fickle i just get bored, still its been awhile maybe i could get involved somewhere...

yep us professors are certainly fun and nowhere near the old archetypes of a bent old man with long white beard and rheumatoid arthritis lol, though come to think of it i do know some lol...

you should see me in my Roman Armour, im an officer in a roman legion :)

i have my settings on x2 normal size for companies of troops how come theyre still very small? i havent managed to find any help guide on the mod anywhere though ive read a bit here and there (and back again!) excuse the pun lol...

i was quite surprised to find at normal setting the companies were tiny, is this got something to do with getting better barracks later on or will they always be tiny...

also the mod works fine for me except one unit doesnt have a pic in the army window it has text, but its only a brown mercenary archer unit im assuming no pic has been put there for it yet? or do i have a missing graphics file?

everything else seems to be good

regards,

gary

[Dol Guldur]

Some elements are still missing such as unit cards - and unit sizes and unit balance are being addressed in release 2.0 (1.7 is the current release) but that will not be for some time yet.

We wanted to put a Guide together for the game but we just don't have time - this is exactly the sort of thing someone could do who has no modding skills and it is silly for skilled modders to do it and take time out from progressing the mod...

There are some fine modding tutorials on this site if you wish to learn how to mod...

Having Roman Armour is kind of cool ;)

[Apoc]

Yeah, making a Guide is something we have brought up from time to time, but no one really have the time sit down and write one. For more info on various issues related to the mod I guess you could check out our home forum at: http://www.thefourthage.org/forums

[Arakorn-eir]

yep us professors are certainly fun...

Then you and the dev team has something in common! ;)

(OK, sorry, that was an inside joke. :P)

[gr3y]

Hi, first post here and probably a bit of a n00b question but..

I have Rome Gold Edition which I've just installed again to play this mod, it's version 1.5 so I thought I would try and install the 1.6 patch to get the mod working. It gives me an install error though saying that 1.6 patch is not compatible with the Gold Edition. Is there another version of 1.6 out there I need to install? I've d/loaded the 1.6 listed in the first post of this thread.

I really want to start playing this mod so hopefully someone can me please

[Dol Guldur]

If you have a Gold Edition with a 1.5 Rome version then then BI version which comes with it should already be patched to 1.6...just boot it up and look in the top-right hand of the screen (you may need to select 'OPTIONS' from the menu to see it).

Just follow the simple instructions.

Enjoy the mod.

[gr3y]

Yup, it's 1.6 - thanks for that, I'm off to start playing now

[PapaNasty]

Hello there. I have not been on forum for a while but i'm back now. I downloaded this mod yesterday, patched it up to 1.7, and have to say that so far this is the very best mod that I have tried. It is absolutely wicked. I was dissapointed in Chiv, although i'm aware that its far from finished, and europa barbarorum for me is slow and annoying, despite it being an excellent mod otherwise. RTR I havent tried again after issues with installation, but i've learned new things since then so may give it another try. This mod has absolutely made my week guys, thank you very much for the time and effort you have put into it. I'm a huge fan of fantasy and in particular LOTR type mods. I look forward to version 2.0. I also would volunteer to write any guide you may require, once i've had more time playing the game

One question, is the origional Corsairs mod able to be installed AFTER this one has been?

[Dol Guldur]

No, FE is merely an enhancement of CI and includes everything that CI does.

A Guide would be great though you'd be hard-pressed to write it without team contributions and I am not sure we can do that due to lack of time :(


Thank you for your kind words - and we're glad we made your week! It has certainly been my aim to avoid issues that might slow down a game (lots of faction, lots of scripting etc) or cause CTDs.

2.0 is going to be great ;)

[PapaNasty]

I can't wait :)

Another question

What happened to the Conical Helmets of the Gondor soldiers? I remember the swordsmen at Osgiliath wore the conical helmet also worn by the soldiers on the walls during the seige. The helms seem to have turned into skullcaps on the swordsmen

[Arakorn-eir]

You mean the movie helmets?

[Ciaran]

I think he´s refering to an older demo release, after all, your Gondor units underwent a major redesign, and if I recall correctly in the earlier demo version all Gondorian soldiers indeed wore conical helmets.

[PapaNasty]

I saw some screenies from a friend of an older release, but yeah I was referring to the movie and the book. There was a description in the book about the Gondor soldiers and their conical helms, and I thought the movie looked wicked. But I also read up above about the amount of research the did, and i've no doubt there was a good reason for not making the helms more conical, maybe modding issues, maybe another. I was just curious :)

[Ciaran]

Just wait until you get King´s Spearmen or Citadel Guards, they have those baniset-style helmets. Royal Bodyguards too.

[stirfriedYen]

Ooh, just downloaded this mod yesterday, started a campaign with the Reunited Kingdom and I'm enjoying it very much (save for the everybody-allies-against-me coincidence, srsly, rohan teaming up with dunlendings? full stacks of rhun + rohan outside of minas tirith. Not good D=)

I've got a few issues with it, though:
1. Odd general names, I've run into a few '<name> of the East of the East' from the Easterling faction already, I'm assuming thats NOT supposed to happen? =/
2. Battle status changes, I don't think it makes much sense that I could be 'losing heavily' in a battle when it hasn't even started yet, I personally think the 'defeat is almost certain' things made more sense.

Minor things about wording, the rest is, as far as I can tell, great =d

[Kuni]

I get an error saying:

"Script error in data/descr_walls.txt, at line 1349, column 34.
Expected culture type, found egyptian"

I had a very fresh install of RTW & BI, patched to 1.6 and ran fatw_fe.exe (specified the folder where RTW was installed w/c was the default Program Files/Activision/Rome - Total War/), then ran fe_patch_1_7. I got the first screen then it CTD with the error above.

[Dol Guldur]

That error occurs when you did not patch to 1.6 first. Please check your version number.

[Roman_Man#3]

Hey Dol Guldur. Love the mod, its awesome. Absolutely love it. Good job.

[Kuni]

sorry for doublepost, but I had something important to add:

my BI/CI folder does not have descr_walls.txt, the crash must be refering to the RTW descr_walls.txt, hence egyptian.

the first screen I'm referring to is the very first screen, I have not had CI previously installed, have not had any mods installed, and have not changed any of the files.

I've been excited to play this mod for 3 days now, ever since I started downloading it.

Thanks for the quick reply! I'm looking forward to giving you rave reviews.

[Kuni]

WOW that was a very quick reply.

I already patched to BI 1.6, I just checked again and indeed it says version 1.6 on my BI.

thanks again!

[Kuni]

as suggested on another thread, I tried deleting the 3 fe related files in the RTW folder, and also deleting BI/CI then rerunning fatw_fe and patching to 1.7 ... It now has a new error message.

error: filename doesn't exist: data/models_building/spot_fx/spot_fx_BI_street_lamp.CAS

then ctd with

script error in bi\ci/data/descr_building_battle/dbb_barbarian_invasion.txt at line 751, column 40.
Unable to open spot fx file models_building/spot_fx/spot_fx_BI_street_lamp.CAS

[Kuni]

I think I've found the culprit.

it says on the page that 1.7 should run another dos application after installation (like fatw_fe.exe), but neither the 1.6 patch nor the 1.7 does so.

someone please help.

[Dol Guldur]

Thank you for reading the instructions.

Yes, the dos system window should run for some minutes...it is triggered to execute when you press the "exit" button of the installer software after the mod has extracted to your system. I cannot imagine why it would not work unless you have designated a wrong path in the installer software and it cannot find the files.

Please make sure you follow the instructions to the letter - they work 100% gauranteed.


And thx Roman Man! ;)

[Kuni]

if it helps, I've noticed whole folders are missing for bi/ci even directly after fe 1.5 is installed, before 1.7 is ran, so it's not the patch files.

and since I'm sure I'm following the instructions to the letter, and continuing down this route won't get results, (I've even gotten someone else to try to install it for me) except getting me headaches..

I will try getting CI, look if it works, then patching to FE 1.5 then 1.7

meanwhile I'll continue playing a woefully unmodded BI. thankfully FE is contained entirely in its own folder, and my installation hasn't messed up my BI.

[Dol Guldur]

Tell me exactly what you are doing and exactly your set up after installation. tell me exactly what happens after hitting 'exit' on the installer and tell me exactly what happens when you try to run the game.

Please provide screenshots. You are doing something wrong and it's hard to track it down if you believe you are following the instructions.

Here are some hints and tips:

You can know the installer ran successfully by virtue of the fact that you have an FE icon on your desktop and an FE folder in your Rome data folder.

This FE folder is deleted in the final step of the batch file execution after hitting 'exit' on the installer.

Let me know your status and I will try to guide you through manually if necessary.

[Kuni]

since I'm such a desperate boy, I tried a few other "solutions" while waiting for CI to d/l.

I noticed the dos batching was taking an obscene amount of space, to eliminate batching problems, I tried freeing up more space (something like 2.6 GB before installation).

and voila it worked like a charm. I thought something was up because of the missing folders, and that it was definitely NOT human error.

and thanks for creating this mod FATW FE team, and for the assistance, Dol Guldur. I'm sure I'll enjoy it immensly now.

[Dol Guldur]

So lack of space on your HDD prevented the dos file from running? It would require about a gig or 2 I guess.

[Kuni]

yes, ultimately, I think lack of hd space was the cause of the dos file not running well.

the dos file always ran for 1.5, it ran for a good few minutes too every time I tried to install the game. the only thing weird was that folders were missing from bi/ci.

the 1.7 patch dos batching always showed up like a blip only though, as if it only ran for a split second, but since my fe runs great, I think it was successful.

speaking of the game, It is great. especially the music, a must have for the game. I am very impressed. I love the execution of the game ideas, and appreciate that while the mod is still in progress, it is made available to the very grateful (and rightfully so) public. I have very few complaints and am a very satisfied consumer.

again, thankyou very much Dol Guldur for being ever ready to help.

[Poosticks7]

I just downloaded your mod the other day. I'd just like to say well done, top job.
I was wondering what you planning next?

Oh yeah, is it possible to make the king live loner? they have Numenorean blood right. or won't total war let you do that?

Anyway Great mod, keep up the good work.

[Judge]

i am in the process of dl this mod to try it, i was wondering to play to i insert my rtw or my Bi disc ???

also i installed this mod into my BI folder, is that correct ?

thanks