Unlocking factions .... is the natural game method broken ?

[xaldub]

Now, before anyone mentions - yes I've read the Tips & F.A.Q and seen how to "cheat" and unlock factions by altering the code.

But .....

I've completed my first short campaign as France ( may as well have been a long one since I got embroiled in multiple disputes and ended up with approx 30 territories ! ) but when I went to start another grand campaign I was still only given the option of choosing the 5 starter factions.

Anyone else experienced this ? Is there a bug in patch 1.1 that prevents players from progressing to using all factions on completion of a campaign ?

Thanks for your help and comments - in anticipation.

[JCoyote]

I'm pretty sure you have to beat a long campaign first to open them up.

[xaldub]

Really ? I was 99.9% certain that it was any Grand campaign - long or short. Anyone able to confirm this ?

[LordKhaine]

It needs to be a long campaign to unlock all of them. According to the FAQ on these forums if you destroy a faction you also unlock them?

[xaldub]

Yes, destroying a faction definitely lends to its availability in another campaign. But, I've read several instances of players who have had all factions available after completing a short campaign. Either they are spreading misinformation, or something is broken ..somehow

[xaldub]

Ok, I've worked it out and finally got the game to unlock the other factions upon completion of my French short campaign. Immediately after achieving the victory movie I had to elect to play on in that campaign to unlock the other factions. If I simply just chose to stop play at that point, the game doesn't seem to recognise the victory conditions have been met and keeps the other factions locked.

Seems like a bug to me ....

[sapi]

To me too.

It's good that you got it working though - it should help other people with the same problem.

[King Bob VI]

I can confirm that it is possible to unlock the factions by completeing a short campaign. I did it with the English.

[ASPER THE GREAT]

Same, Same, Short champ as England unlocked all and I did not continue???

[grapedog]

i just finished my first campaing, short with english, and nothing new was unlocked...none of the factions I defeated or any other factions. I'm using v1.1, since it's not working, i'll just use the work around...bah!

[heroic hungarian]

i'm totaly sure you only have to complete a short campain ut maybe i am wrong

[Saulot]

Ok, I've worked it out and finally got the game to unlock the other factions upon completion of my French short campaign. Immediately after achieving the victory movie I had to elect to play on in that campaign to unlock the other factions. If I simply just chose to stop play at that point, the game doesn't seem to recognise the victory conditions have been met and keeps the other factions locked.

Seems like a bug to me ....

I made the same mistake on my first short campaign with Venice. I'm glad you found the solution, because I was quite confused. However, in the course of my campaign, I had defeated Milan and the Byzantines (as per the victory conditions), so does anybody know why those factions were not unlocked? Of course, in the end I just unlocked them the quick and dirty way.

[grapedog]

I made the same mistake on my first short campaign with Venice. I'm glad you found the solution, because I was quite confused. However, in the course of my campaign, I had defeated Milan and the Byzantines (as per the victory conditions), so does anybody know why those factions were not unlocked? Of course, in the end I just unlocked them the quick and dirty way.

i did the same thing the first time, but i reloaded the turn before i beat the short campaign, beat it, then played another turn and it still didn't work...maybe it has something to do with v1.1 or v1.0...?

[Skott]

I unlocked them by finishing a English short campaign back when I first got the game. Far as I know it doesnt need to be a long campaign.

[Lorenzo_H]

i'm totaly sure you only have to complete a short campain ut maybe i am wrong

Doesn't sound like you're totally sure then

[Snoil The Mighty]

It is supposed to unlock all playable factions by winning a short campaign. It worked fine for me. Finished a Spanish short back when I got the game and all the factions were then playable.

[sbroadbent]

i'm totaly sure you only have to complete a short campain ut maybe i am wrong

That is odd. In my game (completly unpatched and unmodded), I haven't even completed a campaign (meaning I'm in the middle of my current first campaign, and I can start a completly new campaign and have Milan and Scotland as a starting choice. I expected to have Egypt, because they have also been eliminated (by the Mongols). It's important to note that I didn't defeat Milan, they just got killed off by the Black Death. I was threatened by the Pope with excom if I attacked Milan, and was waiting it out, and then got a notice that the Pope didn't care what happened to Milan anymore because they no longer existed.

In any event, it seems that I can atleast start a new campaign with either Scotland or Milan without having to finish off my current English campaign. I'm currently looking forward to eliminating the Danes.

[grapedog]

sounds like a patched game vs. non patched game issue...mine was patched and i didn't get the choice. Seems like most people who are not patched have it working fine...

[ObeliX]

Completed short campaign with hre with a patched game and haven't messed around with any of the files. Stopped on gaining victory conditions and unlocked all factions fine.

[Philbert]

I am still within my first within my first campaign (with the HRE) and when I go to the menu to start a new campaign, I can now choose between the default factions plus the factions that I have destroyed during my current campaign (Danes, Hungary, Scots).

My army is building up to conquer Rome so I will have completed this campaign shortly, and if I read this thread correctly that will also unlock all of the other factions.
I find that a bit of a shame to be honest, because it seems quite a challenge to destroy all factions one by one and that way get the full scope of the game by achievement (except papal states, mongols etc. that is). So I would prefer it to be the 'natural' way. People that donot feel they are up to this challenge could then resort to the easiest mod there is in this game.

[The Outsider]

Yep it is true when i tried to unlock the factions playing as england in a short campaigne they were not open and in many places i heard that finishing the game on a short campaigne was supposed to unlock them. I suppose that there is a bug involved

[Budwise]

First, I believe its the short campaign and although I was cheating to test game mechanics, I did beat the short campaign and it opened them up.

NO, I think is great to have to unlock them. I think it gives something to EARN and a reason to keep playing. I wish you had to destroy a faction ONLY to unlock them, not just beat the game. This way, I would have a bigger reason to destroy Egypt or take on the Aztecs when that comes up.

[Philbert]

Not sure if you are adressing me, Budwise, but if you read carefully you will see that you are actually agreeing with what I said...

[Budwise]

Not sure if you are adressing me, Budwise, but if you read carefully you will see that you are actually agreeing with what I said...

Yeah, thats what I meant to do.