AI unable to use ships for transports;

**Foz** · 02-05-2007, 23:50

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Done that a zillion times, never seen anything at all...

I've looked through the files I've changed, can't really see anything wrong there...

How about... unpack the 1.1 file and then put your changes back in. I'd tell you what the changes were if I was sure myself, but I'm not...

**DanMasey** · 02-06-2007, 00:06

The Sicilians and Moors are active in Sardinia in some of my campaigns. It’s strange, in some campaigns there are many attacks, but in others nothing at all happens. I’m not sure why it is… I like to take all of the islands though, as they are great for setting up Crusading armies. Rhodes especially! Whenever I take that it’s never been attacked excluding the port.

**TevashSzat** · 02-06-2007, 01:16

This discrepancy between campaigns shouldnt happe. Maybe everyone is playing a different language in their campaigns and it is getting messed up that way. I btw am playing the english one in us

**dph948** · 02-06-2007, 02:34

I too have seen the AI using their navies for transport, but it seems from the other posts that crusades/jihads rarely, if ever, use transports. In a game as Egypt, I saw Venice use navies to send troops to Smyrna and Rhodes, but French and Holy Roman crusades marched across the Dardanelles.

One possible explanation:
I dont know about the rest of you, but sometimes I see AI stacks with 22 units, especially crusade armies with the potential for plenty of cheap mercs. However, a fleet can only hold 20 units, perhaps making fleets unable to carry the average crusade army. The only fix I could see would be stopping the AI from making these 22 unit stacks.

**TevashSzat** · 02-06-2007, 02:51

22 unit stacks? i am pretty sure that the max is just twenty....even for the ai

**dph948** · 02-06-2007, 02:58

Both in RTW and M2, I've seen 22 units in an AI army, I have no idea how it works, but I can't have been the only person that's seen this? Its usually with a general in charge, from my experience.

**pilum** · 02-06-2007, 03:21

The AI seem to know how to launch naval invasions, but they don't know how to use ships just to ferry troops around. A number of times I've seen the AI decide to invade, but by the time they get there the circumstances have changed (nations have made peace or the target is no longer weakly garrisoned). So the recently disembarked army will just sit there forever rather than getting back on the ship. I've seen examples of this both on islands (eg Sardinia) and on the mainland (eg Scots landing near Antwerp)

**PseRamesses** · 02-06-2007, 16:07

Originally Posted by dph948

I dont know about the rest of you, but sometimes I see AI stacks with 22 units, especially crusade armies with the potential for plenty of cheap mercs. However, a fleet can only hold 20 units, perhaps making fleets unable to carry the average crusade army. The only fix I could see would be stopping the AI from making these 22 unit stacks.

Count the slots. There´s only 9 per row plus two exstra on the third row. 9+9+2=20

**Empirate** · 02-07-2007, 11:26

That was enlightening, PseRamesses! I had always wondered about this "22 slot bug" and thought it was an unfair AI advantage! Thanks for the clarification.

**gardibolt** · 02-07-2007, 18:05

In my 1.1 vanilla game, playing as English M/M the pope launched a naval invasion of Corsica and then used that as a base of operations to invade Sicily. So there's plenty of AI naval operations to be seen here.

OTOH, there is a half stack of Mongols, with a general, sitting on a ship in the Red Sea, doing nothing. Why? I dunno.

**PseRamesses** · 02-08-2007, 01:32

Originally Posted by Empirate

That was enlightening, PseRamesses! I had always wondered about this "22 slot bug" and thought it was an unfair AI advantage! Thanks for the clarification.

I´m glad to make your day m8! It´s always the obvious that illudes (sp?) us.