Carthage has no elephants!

[HamilcarBarca]

I can't find a way to produce elephants. I remember from 0.74 beta that elephants could only be produced at Cirta - but now they appear to have gone all together!

I have built everything at Carthage, and have conquered the whole of North Africa. Many provinces have the elephant resource - but no elephants.

What am I doing wrong. Please give me some advice.

H.

[Zastrow]

Think you gotta build lvl 4s in the interior provinces, that is what I do at least. Building the highest level govenrment building isn't always the best, build the lvls 1 and 2s for provinces more "Carthaginian" or trader style, build lvl 4 in the "auxiliaries" "tributary" areas like inner spain / numidia for their local troops.

[Kull]

I can't find a way to produce elephants. I remember from 0.74 beta that elephants could only be produced at Cirta - but now they appear to have gone all together!

I have built everything at Carthage, and have conquered the whole of North Africa. Many provinces have the elephant resource - but no elephants.

What am I doing wrong. Please give me some advice.

H.

With either a Type 1 or Type 2 Government, you should be able to build a Level 3 Faction MIC that will allow for the recruitment of African Forest Elephants in the provinces shown below. If that is NOT the case, let me know.

[QwertyMIDX]

Like Kull points out, Elephants aren't from Carthage, they're from the Atlas Mountains west of Carthage. You should be able to get them there.

[HamilcarBarca]

In Numidia/Cirta I have a level 1 government (client state, 300 mnai, 1 turn) and a level 4 MIC. No elephants.

H.

[Bonny]

client state: This is government Level 4
You have confound the Core Building (Governour Villa, and so on) which needs to be upgraded regarding to the sice of the city, with the EB Government buildings.


oftop: We need afaik a new guide (some sort of manual) which explains all special eb things government, recruitmt, script, diferences 0.74/0.8

[Kull]

In Numidia/Cirta I have a level 1 government (client state, 300 mnai, 1 turn) and a level 4 MIC. No elephants.

H.

Well, let's perform a detailed test:

I loaded up a new Carthage game and per the map posted above, decided to recruit some elephants in the province of Mashiliem. The city in that province, Ippone, already has a Type 2 government, so I know I can build at least a level three MIC. My next step is to look at the existing MIC. It's the Level 1 Militia Armory and Magazine. My next step is to build the Small Contingency Barracks and Armory (L2), and six turns later it is complete. From there I check the construction window, which says the next option is the Large Contingency Barracks, Stables, and Mercenary Armory (L3).

I right click that building, and lo and behold, one of the unit recruitment options is the African Forest Elephant. But since there's a fan out there who claims it's impossible for Carthaginians to recruit elephants, I decide to build one. Stick my finger in the wound, as it were. Nine turns later an imposing new edifice has arisen inside the city of Ippone. I hurry down to see the Commander in Charge, and he assures me that yes indeed, if elephants I want, elephants I can get. Bah I say, I have it on good authority that such creatures can't be found here. He rolls his eyes, and tells me to return in 2 turns. Exactly two turns later I stroll through the city square toward the Armory, but three streets before I get there, my ears and nose tell me what lies ahead. And sure enough, they do not lie. For there they are, an entire squadron of elephants patiently awaiting my arrival, tails and trunks swaying from side to side.

So for anybody who wants Carthaginian elephants, please head off to Ippone at once. I'd REALLY like for somebody to take them off my hands as they are damned expensive, have stripped my fruit trees bare, trampled the vegetables, and ruined the lawn. To say nothing of the flies and the odors that draw them like, well, you know. Worst of all, the mistress is not pleased, and we all know what that means!

[blank]

No need to be cynical, he just said he can't recruit any

it seems he just built the wrong government

[Kull]

it seems he just built the wrong government

As we've explained elsewhere, Building Conditionals are no longer possible for units. In v.74 he would have needed a Type 1 or 2, but it's handled differently in the v.80 build. Government Types control the number of MIC Levels, and anything other than a Carthie Type 4 will allow a MIC Level 3 to be built. So unless he's been uniformly unlucky or careless in his government choices, it's hard to imagine how he's been unable to build elephants.

[Zastrow]

Kull, you must be the one who writes all the funny descriptions for Carthaginian buildings. The part about making small models of giant metropolis building (whatever it is called, escapes my mind at the moment) and getting rich off it literally had me laughing out loud. I love the humor mixed in with the immersion, whoever wrote those, kudos!

[Kull]

Kull, you must be the one who writes all the funny descriptions for Carthaginian buildings. The part about making small models of giant metropolis building (whatever it is called, escapes my mind at the moment) and getting rich off it literally had me laughing out loud. I love the humor mixed in with the immersion, whoever wrote those, kudos!

I believe the inestimable Teleklos Archelaou is the one who should take that bow.

[Zastrow]

I believe the inestimable Teleklos Archelaou is the one who should take that bow.

My mistake, your dry sense of cynic humor struck me as similiar to it. No offense with the cynic humor style, I prefer it myself. Why else would I love George Carlin?

[Kull]

My mistake, your dry sense of cynic humor struck me as similiar to it. No offense with the cynic humor style, I prefer it myself. Why else would I love George Carlin?

Me too. And I really have no problem with poor Hamilcar, although some of my words may have been a tad too pointed.

[Ower]

I'm probably blind, but for the elefants do you need a lvl 3 Faction or Local MIC?

[Spectral]

kull dixit

With either a Type 1 or Type 2 Government, you should be able to build a

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Level 3 Faction MIC

that will allow for the recruitment of African Forest Elephants in the provinces shown below.

[Ower]

thx. I´m just sometimes blind, and can´t see (like me brain would ignore them) some words.