Shield Wall

[mcantu]

The problem is that the shield wall is part of BI, which is a purchasable add-on and not something the team can simply put in. Although, I think an EB Platinum Edition in the manner of RTR is possible, would would use BI and some of the things that BI introduces.

I dont understand this. There's nothing directly from BI that the team has to put into EB. In order to use Shield Wall it only has to be listed as a possible formation for a unit in the EDU.

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I dont understand this. There's nothing directly from BI that the team has to put into EB. In order to use Shield Wall it only has to be listed as a possible formation for a unit in the EDU.

yes i remember the unit simply wouldn't have the ability if played with 1.5 or lower, it wouldn't cause compatibility issues. But, i also remember it requires some icon from a BI pack file, or the icon looks really horrible

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Hi,
I would presume that some Celtic, most Germanic units and and some Greek units, such as hoplites would use it should EB introduce it. However from what has been said in this thread, I doubt they ever will, although it would be a very nice feature to include in "vanilla" EB if possible.

[Erugolon]

I'd just like to add, I was also surprised by that mini-mod in that some units with the phalanx formation had it replaced by shield_wall. It seems to be any of the hoplites fighting in the Iphikrates manner including Liby-phoenicians, Triarii, Hoplitai Haploi etc...

From their descriptions and the teams choice to use the phalanx formation, it seems to me they should have longer spears and thus shield_wall is inappropriate. So, I'm wondering would the team depict any of the units with the phalanx formation differently if they had access to shield_wall?

[Bonny]

yes i remember the unit simply wouldn't have the ability if played with 1.5 or lower, it wouldn't cause compatibility issues. But, i also remember it requires some icon from a BI pack file, or the icon looks really horrible

You get a ctd if you trie to use schildwall in RTW 1.5.

If you play on bi exe you need to add shield_wall to unit formation in edu

Here is an example

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type             greek infantry taxeis hoplitai
dictionary       greek_infantry_taxeis_hoplitai      ; Hoplitai Haploi
category         infantry
class            spearmen
voice_type       General_1
soldier          hellenistic_infantry_taxeishoplitai_poenicitizenmilitia, 40, 0, 1
officer          officer_hellenic_officer
mount_effect     horse +1, camel +1, elephant -1
attributes       sea_faring, hide_forest
formation        1, 1.2, 2, 2.4, 4, square, shield_wall
stat_health      1, 0
stat_pri         8, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 0 ,0.13
stat_pri_attr    spear
stat_sec         0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 0 ,0.1
stat_sec_attr    no
stat_pri_armour  5, 5, 4, flesh
stat_sec_armour  0, 0, flesh
stat_heat        2
stat_ground      0, 0, -3, -2
stat_mental      9, normal, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay  0
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        1, 802, 200, 30, 40, 802
ownership        greek_cities, macedon, thrace, slave, carthage, pontus, gauls, britons, scythia, dacia, germans, spain, parthia, seleucid

I used it for following units, but i'm far away to be historian:

Hopites
Hoplites Haploi
Spartiates Hoplite (sp?)
Hypaspistai
Massilian Hoplites
Thorakitai
Lybu Phoenician Infantry (early and late)
Lybian Infatry (late)