Gun Powder

[ASPER THE GREAT]

Spain Vh/Vh long Champaign gun powder just showed up. Question, Catholic units only have (foot) unit's available Hand gunner, Arque, & Musk? There are no mounted troops with guns for the Europeans? By the way, which faction is heavey on the gun powder?

[Lorenzo_H]

Spain have got nice gunpowder units... I think they get the best alround (western) selection.

EDIT: Oh wait sorry I didn't read that you already are Spain...

[FrauGloer]

The only mounted gunpowder unit in catholic Europe are the Reiter(s) of the HRE. There are no "real" gunpowerder-heavy factions (i.e. almost all can be, but none has to be), but there are some that have advantages:
Spain, Portugal, Milan and Venice get Musketeers (stronger, longer-ranged than arquebus)
Turks get Jannissary Musketeers (slightly stronger than normal musketeers)
Portugal also gets Portoguese Arquebuisers (significantly stronger than normal Arquebuisers and slightly stronger than normal Musketeers)
Russia gets Cossack Musketeers (best musketeers in the game)
Moors get Camel Gunners
HRE gets Reiters (strong in melee as well as at range)

All but two factions (Scotland and Byzantium) get normal Arquebuisers, which though inferior to the units mentioned above, still have the potential to do loads of damage.

[Lorenzo_H]

Shall we therefore rank them:

1. Cossack Musketeer
2. Jannisaries
3. Musketeer
4. Portuguese Arquebuiser
5. Arquebuiser
6. Hand Gunners

This is only infantry.

EDIT: FrauGloer kindly pointed out below that Reiter are, in fact, a Cavalry unit. Forgive me; I have never played the Holy Roman Empire!

[FrauGloer]

3. Reiter

This is only infantry.

Erm no Reiters (argh I hate that anglicised plural 's') are cavalry, and I'd personally rank Portuguese Arquebuisers at least equal to normal musketeers.

[zstajerski]

Cossack Musketeers have for me performed ass teh best hand-gunpowder unit,
Venices Monster Ribault has (for me again) performed as the best "sige"-gunpowder unit for destroying enemy units, and culverins for attacking walls..
For me the best mounted-gunpowder unit was CammelGunners, but i am only now playing as HRE and am waiting for Gunpowder, so i do not know about the Reiters yet...


edit:
forgot, the best gunpowder cavalry is of course: "Mercenary Elephants (those with the gunners of course)"

[Callahan9119]

The only mounted gunpowder unit in catholic Europe are the Reiter(s) of the HRE. There are no "real" gunpowerder-heavy factions (i.e. almost all can be, but none has to be), but there are some that have advantages:
Spain, Portugal, Milan and Venice get Musketeers (stronger, longer-ranged than arquebus)
Turks get Jannissary Musketeers (slightly stronger than normal musketeers)
Portugal also gets Portoguese Arquebuisers (significantly stronger than normal Arquebuisers and slightly stronger than normal Musketeers)
Russia gets Cossack Musketeers (best musketeers in the game)
Moors get Camel Gunners
HRE gets Reiters (strong in melee as well as at range)

All but two factions (Scotland and Byzantium) get normal Arquebuisers, which though inferior to the units mentioned above, still have the potential to do loads of damage.

port arqs have better stats than musketeers, but muskets got awsome range

[Ragnor_Lodbrok]

Don't forget the Sudanese Gunners for Egypt and the Moors, they're more powerful than Musketeers, however they have a shorter range and upgraded, they look awesome.

[JCoyote]

Portuguese Arquebusiers are also superior to muskets and normal arques in melee.

[TravPaul]

Hmmmmm, Mounted gunpowder units for HRE.....I have used the hand gunners and arqs so far but mounted ones....I have something for the Mongrels then!