wow, that's complex. And it's certainly a lot more than i gave the team credit for, if that were indeed the way they were thinking. Trust the Team to leave no detail behind, kudos to them once again! My girlfriend's been playing Baktria and I've been playing Makedonia, and apart from that Baktrioi Hippeis .tga bug, it's been really good! Even my girlfriend, trying out the game for the first time without touching RTW except to learn the ropes, says it's really good! So great going, on the shields issue level of thought, and on everything else!