Why CA does not react on nazism

[YellowMelon]

Screw nazism, why in gods name are they legally allowed to sell us this rubbish that is practically broken. If I bought an ipod and it didnt turn on, Im pretty sure ide get my money back. GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK.

[ElmarkOFear]

Yup, if CA can ban this guy, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.

Though during the RTW chat fiasco, I thought CA mentioned they had no way of identifying or actually banning a player from the gamespy server. There was some reason mentioned why they couldn't ban the few players doing much of the same as this guy is doing. If M2TW is set up differently, they may very well be able to permanently ban this guy's cd-key. I wouldn't have a problem with that at all.

I DID notice tonight this person was online, and someone told everyone to avoid this guy's game and that he was spouting nazi nonsense. From what I saw nobody spoke to the guy, nor joined his game. When I got out of a game after it locked up at launch, the guy was gone.

I think if, we as a community keep this up, we can eliminate the problem outselves. If not, then we can ask CA, as a community and not just a few players, to get rid of this guy permanently.

However, if anyone resorts to mentioning the word "lawsuit" or "going to the media" I would expect CA to do a pre-emptive closing of the chat lobby like they did in RTW.

I would be willing to put my signature to a request to ban this person, since I personally abhor any type of hate speech.

[KrooK]

Member of CA respond on my e-mail today.
I can't tell what exactly he told because it was private e-mail but I'm absolutely satisfied. CA won't allow on nazi propaganda on gs.

I must tell that CA handled with problem seriously.

[ElmarkOFear]

That is good news.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

Hey,


Very Great News indeed Krook. Glad you are taking a stand :) :)

[pike master]

if the guys statements have actually attacked other people he should be banned from lobby. i do not like nazism but ive seen people talk of their muslim fundamentalists beliefs which i dont really care to hear either. its not a matter of saying you are a nazi or a muslim its when you start verbally attacking other beliefs and groups that crosses the line. if that line is crossed he should be banned but people should also be censored for abusing holes in the language filters too.

the game is for late teen ratings but you never know that some 10 year old kid could be on there or someguys wife looks over his shoulder while he is viewing the lobby and sees some of the statements made on it and hits him over the head with a skillet.

[Dionysus9]

I think what is most frustrating to me is the mindless and arbitrary censorship of normal conversation. Normal phrases such as: "but its spice" turn out as : *** ** *****. That phrase is completely censored by the lobby, while "I kill [enter ethnic group here]" is allowed.

Dont get me wrong, I agree with Elmarko-- but if CA is going to have some bogus censorship in place, they might want to improve its efficacy or remove it. Frankly, it only frustrates me when I'm trying to have a normal adult conversation and it does nothing to stop the abusive punks that are causing problems.

Just more crap we have to deal with if we want to play MP. Brilliant!

[Skyline Pete]

BTW: Such speak of supporting Nazism is illegal in some countries, not all. As much as we hate it, in a lot of countries, we have to put up with it. CA is based in England and Australia. I am not sure, but I believe spouting nazi propaganda is not considered illegal in those two countries.

No, we (Australia) don't need stupid laws banning what I consider to be free speech.

NO text/speech of any sort should be banned EVER at all. Those people of intelligence levels who believe the sort of talk you speak of should be educated to better understand why it's garbage/truth and thus be left up to their own, albiet hopefully educated, devices to make up thier mind.

Banning something and just saying "Because it's bad mmmkay!" is not an appropriate response.

[R'as al Ghul]

Funny, one of their clan-rules says that it's not allowed to insult other players on their own or third party servers.

Their site is decorated with iron crosses and the warflag of the ww1 period. This flag is not illegal in Germany, as the 3rd Reich flag, but it's often used by Nationalists and NeoNazis in Germany.

Most probably they are a bunch of kids that like to shock others with their attitude. Annoying, I agree.

[pike master]

[btw: especially americans should not forget... the members of the Waffen-SS are very much comparable to muslim suicide attackers. they were also indoctrinated and extrem fanatic in their believe of hitler as their Führer. they didnt fought for their nation, they fought for the reign of nazism, so for the reign of murder, violence and injustice]

a little known fact about the german nazis in post world war 2 germany was that they conducted a guerilla war for up to 5 years after the end of the war. it petered out because it was rarely mentioned in the news at the time.

perhaps thats a valuable lesson the world as a whole could learn from now. since the islamic radicals are conducting many bombings and attacks to get in the news and disturb people and terrorify them into wanting to pull their troops out and the country fall into their hands.

sorry i have to say it

what is the right thing to do over there in iraq. should the coalition just pull out and leave these people to the terrorists and wait for our turn or should be continue to stand against them.

the goals of the leadership in terrorist organizations are very grand indeed. i wonder what the future will hold if we make the wrong decisions in the next few years.

all i can say is i would have no idea what the leaders of the nations involved in the coalition have to face everyday in this.

i mean the jokers are gassing their own people. somethings got to be done but i havent a clue what to do.

but as i said when germany was overrun the nazis conducted a fanatical insurgency for 4 to 5 years but the world stayed there anyways. and once they realized no one was taking any notice and no country was going to help fund their efforts they melted away.

[Stig]

sure, who told you that? Krook?

[pike master]

i read it in a book called dirty secrets of world war 2 but i cant remember the author of the book. i used to have it but i cant find it now.

[Lord Condormanius]

what is the right thing to do over there in iraq. should the coalition just pull out and leave these people to the terrorists and wait for our turn or should be continue to stand against them.

the goals of the leadership in terrorist organizations are very grand indeed. i wonder what the future will hold if we make the wrong decisions in the next few years.

all i can say is i would have no idea what the leaders of the nations involved in the coalition have to face everyday in this.

This sounds like something Dick Cheney would say. Except for the part about being unsure...

i mean the jokers are gassing their own people. somethings got to be done but i havent a clue what to do.

Ummm...? Not recently...not in a very long time actually.

[pike master]

im just calling it like i see it.

anyways that slightly off topic anyways.

it would be nice to have a forum where i could rip loose about how i really feel about things instead of having to walk on pins and needles.

sega runs the forum not CA. they need to have personal monitors on there to watch this stuff. but ive seen pretty disturbing statements from muslim fundamentalists, homosexuals, new nazis and other groups.

i dont like new nazis but i also dont like muslim fundamentalists or homosexuals advertising what they like to do in private either.

what about discussion on christian religion. you even mention a statement about christianity on the lobby you get shouted off. its odd you dont get shouted off if you start spitting out racist or anti-semitic garbage or telling people what you would like to do to them in a private manner.

odd indeed.

its not CA that is permitting this stuff on there its the community. if you dont like these guys spitting out stuff then jump on them as a whole in the community like you do when someone starts talking about god.

[Kenchi_Shaka]

No, we (Australia) don't need stupid laws banning what I consider to be free speech.

NO text/speech of any sort should be banned EVER at all. Those people of intelligence levels who believe the sort of talk you speak of should be educated to better understand why it's garbage/truth and thus be left up to their own, albiet hopefully educated, devices to make up thier mind.

Banning something and just saying "Because it's bad mmmkay!" is not an appropriate response.

yes text and speech should be banned if it calls for the extermination, deportation, suppresion, torture of mankind.

its not legal to send someone a letter saying "i ll kill you" neither in australia i guess. even if its jus a joke...