Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Inactive Voters:

Format = Name (post count) [votes]


No Votes whatsoever:

Dutch (8)*, Fenrig (2), Iggy (1), JimBob (1), Motep (1), 'Luster (2)*

--the three ones are clearly wog-bait. Dutch continues to post without choosing (he did post an explanation of this). Warluster claims press of time.

* = passive abstention only


No Active Votes:

Chugg (4) [abstain, dnv, dnv]



One Active Vote:

ByzK (8) [pev', abstain, abstain], Arach (10) [abstain, abstain, Caius], Rabbit (2) [Redleg, dnv, dnv].



-- Rabbit is lurking, why I do not know.

-- ByzK and Arach are not being decisive -- not sure of the story here either.


Also Kagemusha (5) [HughT, dnv, Rabbit] with two active votes has a low post count both for him and as compared to the active voters.


However, for now, I will agree with his last round idea and Vote: Crazed Rabbit

[Reenk Roink]

Acting out of character is a very common mafia tell.

No it's not. Different character can be explained by many factors.

As is persistance without having good reason...

That's you though...

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro for reasons mentioned in almost everyone of my posts.

By the way, you shouldn't have killed Sir Moody Mafia cowards!

[Xiahou]

vote: Sasaki
For reasons obvious to anyone who's been following the thread.

[Pannonian]

Let's see him talk then.

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

[CountArach]

IIRC it is unlike Rabbit to lurk. Perhaps he is trying to fly under the radar? Let's see him talk.

[Stig]

Aye, talk bitch


Vote: CR

(and if you say I bandwagon, vote Xiahou first for his bandwagon)

[Csargo]

Vote:Xiahou
His behavior reminds me of Graffiti Mafia, and now that I look back it seems so even more. I don't like this one bit

[pevergreen]

I want to know what the item was. It could be a write up, but why does Beirut mention it. Too many references to just be mafia write up i think.

[Sigurd]

vote: Xiahou

Because... uhm... eh.... *words*
BANDWAGON!!! woohooo...

[Xiahou]

vote: Xiahou

Because... uhm... eh.... *words*
BANDWAGON!!! woohooo...

At least he's honest about it.

Trying to save CR or Sasaki?

[Stig]

Trying to save CR or Sasaki?

I would say: Trying to kill a mafia

[HughTower]

Acting out of character is a very common mafia tell.

As is persistance without having good reason...

Vote:Xiahou

Acting out of character is a good tell, but highly subjective. I have no basis on which to judge his character, except for CdiT where he was quiet in the thread, but obviously very busy killing people behind the scenes, & as a result, find nothing suspicious about his behaviour. You claim it's out of character, despite people saying otherwise - what should we believe?

You are being equally persistent in your pursuit of Xiahou, (indeed as I am of Ichigo & Sigurd). However, 'good reason' is also highly subjective - I don't think your reasoning for Xiahou is 'good', I argued that Sigurd's reasoning for accusing pevergreen was not 'good', & Ichigo lives a land where reason is something that a grape turns into when left on the vine too long.

It is interesting that Sasaki, Ichigo & Sigurd have formed a cabal of self-interest, based on bandwagoning & nonsense voting.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Welcome to the family fued!


Here's the "Let's lynch Sasaki family:"

Xiahou, Reenk, Redleg


Here's the "Let's lynch Xiahou family:"

Sasaki, Ichigo, Sigurd



Problem, for me, is that I do not see either Sasaki or Xiahou out of character so far. Xiahou is posting at nearly 2 posts in 40, but his mafia track record is 1.2 posts per 40 or less -- so far he has always been a quiet mafioso. Sasaki is nattering and pushing -- typical Sasaki.

We've had three votes and several hundred posts. Kommo, surely Mycroft has at least some preliminaries?

I'd love to get Sasaki stabbing away at somebody who I could feel was off norm. So far Rabbit and ... Kommo himself .... seem a little off norm to my lights.

[HughTower]

@ Seamus - fair comment.

How about this for food for thought?

The Sirs were killed in tandem in CdiT as well.

Sir Boo - by Rabbit & Pindar
Sir Moody - by Alex & Xiahou

Both were killed under the auspices of the Barzinis - Prole & Reenk.

Two Aussies were killed the night before - our mafioso/i likes a theme it would seem.

Any thoughts, or shall I just go put my foil hat on again & return to the bunker?

[Sir Moody]

Both me and my brother killed in the same round... typical... least i didnt die in the first round again



I would look at Komm if i were you guys, hes playing this one very much differently than normal - that doesnt meen hes guilty (he may be trying out a new hunting method) but it is certainly odd

[ByzantineKnight]

Both me and my brother killed in the same round... typical... least i didnt die in the first round again



I would look at Komm if i were you guys, hes playing this one very much differently than normal - that doesnt meen hes guilty (he may be trying out a new hunting method) but it is certainly odd

U guys are brothers? Cool! Me and Chugg too!

[Pannonian]

Both me and my brother killed in the same round... typical... least i didnt die in the first round again

I would look at Komm if i were you guys, hes playing this one very much differently than normal - that doesnt meen hes guilty (he may be trying out a new hunting method) but it is certainly odd

He's given some pretty good excuses so far, but at the same time they're excuses that try the patience of the town. Business trips, trying out the new system, etc. deserves some laxity, but at the same time we should not forget about him. Let's put him aside for the meantime, as he's set Wednesday as the date when he'll be active again.

Meanwhile, we have a good situation - 3 people each on 3 votes and in danger of lynching. The Crazed Rabbit camp is straightforward enough - we want an explanation from him for his absence. Can the other two camps do a summary of why their candidate is guilty so we won't have to dig through the whole thread? If you've already written a summary, post again from this point with a link to that summary.

[Andres]

vote: Xiahou

Because... uhm... eh.... *words*
BANDWAGON!!! woohooo...

I would like Sigurd to write the summary Pannonian was talking about And i want him to add his reasons for his vote.

I didn't trust him at the start, when he succesfully managed to get HughTower lynched without giving much explanation as for what particular reason he voted HughTower.

Afterwards he explained, I didn't like that explanation but I accepted it.

And now he does this... Shamelesly bandwagoning and admitting it as well.

I would like to hear your explanation for this vote Sigurd. Since I suspected you earlier on in the game and you managed to catch my eye with another "without any particular good reason"-vote, I will:

Vote : Sigurd Fafnesbane

Elaborate why you voted Xiahou. Are you trying to hide between the crowd with this quickly popping up after a long period of silence and voting for someone who is on others players list of suspects?

Quickly casting a vote for someone who is likely to get lynched and afterwards disappearing until the next lynch round? What are you up to Sigurd? Do you want the town to do your dirty mafioso work?

[Sigurd]

Vote : Sigurd Fafnesbane

Elaborate why you voted Xiahou. Are you trying to hide between the crowd with this quickly popping up after a long period of silence and voting for someone who is on others players list of suspects?

there are two crowds? and I am in the middle.... yes that must be it.

Quickly casting a vote for someone who is likely to get lynched and afterwards disappearing until the next lynch round? What are you up to Sigurd? Do you want the town to do your dirty mafioso work?

I'll answer Xiahou on this one.
*Cough* I am trying to save Sasaki... uhm ... or was it CR.. damn... this Alzheimer... Oh well I can't remember sorry.

[Andres]

there are two crowds? and I am in the middle.... yes that must be it.



I'll answer Xiahou on this one.
*Cough* I am trying to save Sasaki... uhm ... or was it CR.. damn... this Alzheimer... Oh well I can't remember sorry.

Is this your "normal" style in mafia games? It seems like you are drunk... Carnaval?



Sigurd, allthough I appreciate the humor, I would like to have an answer...

Just playing the clown and acting as the funny guy can be some sort of deception as well. You are too much showing this "I don't really care what you think"-attitude ("and a mafioso would care, wouldn't he, so I can't be mafioso blablabla"). Is this your "regular" play style or do you eagerly want us to believe that you are innocent by acting like you don't care about who you vote and why you vote? Please, give a "real" answer.

This isn't the Midgurd Saga and there is no Loki character here

[Pannonian]

In that case I might as well switch my vote to you. You've been gleefully opaque throughout this game, without even the semblance of explanation. I expect Rabbit to be wogged pretty soon, so it would be less wasteful to concentrate on you instead. I urge at least a couple of others to vote Sigurd to pressure him to explain his activities in this game.

Unvote: Crazed Rabbit
Vote: Sigurd Fafnesbane

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Problem, for me, is that I do not see either Sasaki or Xiahou out of character so far. Xiahou is posting at nearly 2 posts in 40, but his mafia track record is 1.2 posts per 40 or less -- so far he has always been a quiet mafioso. Sasaki is nattering and pushing -- typical Sasaki.

He's posted more because I'm pressing him. His defense reminds me strongly of Capo, i.e. this kind of post:

Both families attacked me- how nice. I honestly didn't think there were enough people left in town to pull of so many kill attempts and protections. I'm not sure how I gained the wrath of both Redleg's family and another- but apparently I was more of a threat to them than even I thought.

Clearly, Redleg wasn't as confident as he led us to believe about being able to bandwagon lynch me on his flimsy evidence though. Hopefully, my death wises up any real townies left.. though I suspect there aren't many.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Hey everyone - sorry for not being that involved in the game. I find it funny that only now, when I decided to post something so as not to be WoG'd after reading GH's last summary, are people actually starting to gun for me. At least, there were briefly, but now aren't, meaning I could've probably continued lurking if it weren't for fear of being struck down by GH.

Anyways...
If Kommodus has no info from his new detective program,
vote: Kommodus

In mafia three he stalled on any results from his research because he was mafia.

CR

[Pannonian]

Hey everyone - sorry for not being that involved in the game. I find it funny that only now, when I decided to post something so as not to be WoG'd after reading GH's last summary, are people actually starting to gun for me. At least, there were briefly, but now aren't, meaning I could've probably continued lurking if it weren't for fear of being struck down by GH.

Anyways...
If Kommodus has no info from his new detective program,
vote: Kommodus

In mafia three he stalled on any results from his research because he was mafia.

CR

He said he's off on a trip at the moment and will be back on Wednesday, so there's not much point in voting for him to get a response. Instead, pick one of the other candidates amd explain your reasoning, and/or tell us what you think is happening so far.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Why should crazed pick one of the candidates?

[Pannonian]

Why should crazed pick one of the candidates?

So he can comment on them. His pick isn't important, I just want his comments. And if he doesn't want to pick one of them, he can comment on the general direction of the game so far. Again, his vote isn't important, I just want his comments.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Anyways...
If Kommodus has no info from his new detective program,
vote: Kommodus

In mafia three he stalled on any results from his research because he was mafia.

CR

Certainly a possibility. To be fair to him, he always noted that his analytical tools started to work best during/after vote round 4. So I share your skepticism of him, but I'm willing to hold off for now.

As to you, you haven't really answered me fully, now have you. Still, for now it will suffice.

Unvote: Crazed Rabbit


Sigurd:

I don't read your posts as mafia -- but you are off your normal style quite a bit. I think I'll follow Pan-man's vote, at least for now.

Vote: Sigurd


Sasaki:

Actual evidence, huzzah! I do see what's twigging you. Not sure I'm as ready to pull the trigger as you, based on this, since Capo had more of a "voting by blocs" feel to it from the mid-game on, but I do take your point on the parallel with the tone of the posts.

[Xiahou]

Sasaki:

Actual evidence, huzzah! I do see what's twigging you. Not sure I'm as ready to pull the trigger as you, based on this, since Capo had more of a "voting by blocs" feel to it from the mid-game on, but I do take your point on the parallel with the tone of the posts.

That still doesn't square with Sasaki's own track record from this game. Look to his vote switch from Pannonian- if by defending myself I've supposedly given away my guilt, why does he still wait for me to vote for him before retaliating in kind?

He's also voted for a confirmed innocent in Orb. I must admit though, Sigurd seems to be going out of his way to get lynched. In cases such as that, it's hard for me not to oblige the person. I'll hold the line for now. Also, CR's explanation seems far from acceptable- it's a typical non-denial that he's known for.

[Faust|]

Vote: Reenk

[Reenk Roink]

Vote: Reenk

Oh hell no, you did not just give me a reason to hound you for the rest of the game and beyond...

Make a note townies. Right now, we have to finish Sasaki Kojiro, but this guy will be in my sights next! Don't say I ever vote for somebody unless there is great benefit for the town or in retaliation.