Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

[Xiahou]

I confirm Sigurd's and Andres' tally.

It seems as if the ongoing tally excluded CountArach's vote for Xiahou.

Xiahou has been lynched, I shall write a proper description when I come home.

Vote summary (only the Sigurd/Xiahou votes, I didn't bother counting the others):

Xiahou: 6 (Sasaki Kojiro, Stig, Sigurd Fafnesbane, CountArach, ByzantineKnight, Xiahou)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 5 (AndresTheCunning, Pannonian, Seamus Fermanagh, Redleg, Kagemusha)

Sorry about that.

Now, what can we glean from this? Was I mafia? Why did people vote for me? Why did some unvote me?

Hughtower supports Xiahou as it seems, that means this is a good lynch.

That doesn't really make any sense- we can't both be mafia. Out of the two of us, at least 1 and possibly both are innocent.

[Stig]

That doesn't really make any sense- we can't both be mafia. Out of the two of us, at least 1 and possibly both are innocent.

And why is that?

[GeneralHankerchief]

During the voting phase, the skies grew progressively darker. This was particularly strange, since the weather forecast showed no sign of rain or even cloud cover anywhere near the Frontroom.

Chief of Police Beirut noticed this meteorological phenomenon, and therefore reluctantly called a re-vote between the two leading vote-getters, Sigurd Fafnesbane and Xiahou. "Be quick about it," he advised the townies.

Much to his relief (and somewhat embarassment), someone discovered that he had forgotten to count one vote for Xiahou, however, and Beirut (with a sigh of relief, this storm looked bad) quickly called an ending to the voting and instructed Xiahou to make his way to the execution platform where he would be torn apart by horses.

The animals, however, were thoroughly spooked at the eerie weather conditions and took forever to cooperate. Xiahou was the only one who had seemed grateful for this. By now the other townies had noticed the sky, which was about as black as the inside of a just-fired gun, and were thanking whatever god existed that the rain had not opened up on them yet.

Beirut even broke tradition and did not ask if Xiahou had any final words, absentmindedly checking to see if the ropes were secure. He fired his gun, the horses ran in opposite directions, and there was that terrible ripping sound. The rain had still not shown itself. Maybe, if it held off for a little longer, he would be able to spend the storm in his house, with a nice toasty fire and cup of hot chocolate, listening to some fine Pink Floyd.

However, at that moment, a flash of lightning could be seen in the sky. Five of them, to be exact. And at the next moment, five piles of ash were seen on the ground, notably where Ignoramus, Lord Motep of Kendermore, JimBob, Warluster, and Fenring were standing a second ago.

The townspeople observed this development and shrugged. Some weren't aware that those people were even present in the first place. They made their way home, the skies back to their cloudless blue state in seconds.

Here is the vote summary for Round 4:

Xiahou: 6 (Sasaki Kojiro, Stig, Sigurd Fafnesbane, CountArach, ByzantineKnight, Xiahou)
Sigurd Fafnesbane: 5 (AndresTheCunning, Pannonian, Seamus Fermanagh, Redleg, Kagemusha)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Reenk Roink)
Reenk Roink: 1 (Faust|)
Kommodus: 1 (Crazed Rabbit)
Pannonian: 1 (Ichigo)

Abstained: 4 (pevergreen, ChuggtheSquirrel, Dutch_guy)
Didn't vote: 6 (Ignoramus, JimBob, Lord Motep of Kendermore, Warluster, Fenring, Kommodus)

(for my records: Kommodus missed the main session but voted in the run-off)

~~~~~~~~~
Still alive: (18)
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
Stig
Ichigo
Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit
Redleg
Reenk Roink
pevergreen
CountArach
ByzantineKnight
AndresTheCunning
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Seamus Fermanagh
Dutch_guy
Faust| (replaces Destroyer of Hope who suicided)
ChuggtheSquirrel
Kommodus

Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Warluster
JimBob
Fenring

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb
Rythmic
sapi
Sir Boo
Sir Moody

Executed:
HughTower
discovery1
Caius Flaminius
Xiahou

[Stig]

WoG way to go, atlast less lurkers

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yikes, we're down to 18 already.

[Csargo]

Losing 6 in one round that's bad.

[Motep]

Typical...just hours before I get on...You kill me. Just peachy...

[ChuggtheSquirrel]

So, there have been 547 posts devoted to the topic of who should we lynch, there's been well reasoned arguments, pedantic semantic debate, insults, tantrums, tears, laughter, & the whole pantechnicon of human emotion, yet, still,

You don't know for whom to vote?

In summary (& I'll try & keep this as objective as possible, despite having expressed my arguments on the matter at some length) then, the two bandwagons are on:

Xiahou - for posting out of character to previous games. This has been denied vigorously by the defendant, whose robust defense has led others to vote for him ......for defending robustly. He has since given up defending himself, voted to lynch himself as the only way left to prove his innocence (he feels) & help the town move on in its inquiries is through his death. He left this vote on till the end, even though by lifting it he could have secured his safety & lynch Sigurd. This last tactic saw an uplift in his fortunes with a few crucial votes swinging away from him & onto others.

Sigurd - for bandwagonning, poor reasoning (if any), & hindering the town in its investigations. He has done little to defend himself at any point, claims he has no time at the moment (yet enough to read the thread & vote & mod another game), took his vote off Xiahou in the last round to force a tie (allegedly) but then put it back on when it looked like he himself would be lynched. In contrast to Xiahou, it appears that this behaviour will prove to be his downfall.

Sorry. I'm not very good at seeing the arguments in non-mini mafia games.

I was going to vote Sigurd, cause of the reasoning, but seeing as Xiahou's dead already...

Edit: I liked the write-up. Nice job with the WoG. lol

[pevergreen]

Im just failing to see how three seperate vote counts can miss me?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=556

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Im just failing to see how three seperate vote counts can miss me?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=556

There's no vote in that post

[pevergreen]

edited out

Not its not suspicious, look at the discussion down below

[Pannonian]

GH, please WoG pevergreen for posting screenshots. From post #1.

- No screenshots. Of anything.

[pevergreen]

Fair enough.

WoG me.

[Csargo]

GH, please WoG pevergreen for posting screenshots. From post #1.

OOOOOOOOOH I'm so voting you next round.

[pevergreen]

He can hold the rules up if he wants. Not much use WoG a townie though.

I posted that screenie to prove i voted. Apparently Sasaki couldnt see my vote. Can you see it in the screenshot?

[Csargo]

He can hold the rules up if he wants. Not much use WoG a townie though.

I posted that screenie to prove i voted. Apparently Sasaki couldnt see my vote. Can you see it in the screenshot?

Well that's why I'm voting him a screenshot of a post doesn't hurt anything, and well for breaking the rules all I can say is let GH decide it's his game. Plus that's one less voting period we have to find the mafia.

[Pannonian]

OOOOOOOOOH I'm so voting you next round.

Considering what pevergreen did in this game was what he did in Capo to spoil it, I think I'm justified in pointing it out. Pevergreen was warned by Seamus in Capo for privately sending game-spoiling information, then I committed suicide (as a townie) to avoid further prejudicing the game when he posted a reference to this in the public thread. A stickied thread was created to debate the ethics of Mafia-play raised by Capo, and GH specifically amended his rules to include the above. Pevergreen has had ample warning that screenshots are not allowed, and I'm not going to suicide myself a second time just because he won't observe the rules.

FWIW, pevergreen's screenshot was of his vote in post #556.

[pevergreen]

And I am aware now (forgot) that posting of screenshots is not allowed, and am happy to let GH WoG me for breaking a rule.

[Csargo]

Considering what pevergreen did in this game was what he did in Capo to spoil it, I think I'm justified in pointing it out. Pevergreen was warned by Seamus in Capo for privately sending game-spoiling information, then I committed suicide (as a townie) to avoid further prejudicing the game when he posted a reference to this in the public thread. A stickied thread was created to debate the ethics of Mafia-play raised by Capo, and GH specifically amended his rules to include the above. Pevergreen has had ample warning that screenshots are not allowed, and I'm not going to suicide myself a second time just because he won't observe the rules.

FWIW, pevergreen's screenshot was of his vote in post #556.

How does it hurt the game other than breaking the rule?

[Pannonian]

And I am aware now (forgot) that posting of screenshots is not allowed, and am happy to let GH WoG me for breaking a rule.

If you want out of the game, commit suicide in the night phase (as I did in Capo). But whatever you do, please delete that damn screenshot as it's stretching the page and I don't like scrollbars at the bottom of my browser.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I still don't get the reasoning behind not allowing screenshots of posts that are in the fricken thread at all.

I was joking about not seeing your vote.

[pevergreen]

My mistake for not understanding your humour.

SS removed for ease of browsing.

[Pannonian]

How does it hurt the game other than breaking the rule?

Were you affected by his breaking the rule in Capo? I was. I was extremely interested in that game before he PMed the screenshot to The Stranger and seriously annoyed Seamus, then posted a reference in the public thread which spoiled the game for me. Not only me either, as Louis VI also considered suicide because of the game-spoiling information. I sent a couple of very annoyed PMs to pevergreen, quoted in that Capo post I linked to. For other players I would advise them to remove the screenshot before GH took action, but pevergreen doesn't deserve latitude for this type of offence. Why didn't he just link to the post as I did?

[pevergreen]

What you left out of the post https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=2589 is that i then apologised many times to you and seamus for my actions, edited my post and then proceeded to ban myself from the org for at least a week.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I posted screenshots of posts from the thread in capo...

what's the big deal?

[Csargo]

Were you affected by his breaking the rule in Capo? I was. I was extremely interested in that game before he PMed the screenshot to The Stranger and seriously annoyed Seamus, then posted a reference in the public thread which spoiled the game for me. Not only me either, as Louis VI also considered suicide because of the game-spoiling information. I sent a couple of very annoyed PMs to pevergreen, quoted in that Capo post I linked to. For other players I would advise them to remove the screenshot before GH took action, but pevergreen doesn't deserve latitude for this type of offence. Why didn't he just link to the post as I did?

Truthfully I didn't notice it since I suicided for personaly reason's which I regret now, but still I could understand him taking a screenshot of a PM saying he was mafia or the detective I would hope he would get WoG'd for that. The fact of the matter is his screenshot in no way hinders the progress of this game any which was my orignal question which you avioded answering for some reason.

[Pannonian]

What you left out of the post https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...postcount=2589 is that i then apologised many times to you and seamus for my actions, edited my post and then proceeded to ban myself from the org for at least a week.

The pevergreen affair
or Why I committed suicide

I was explaining my actions, which were widely misunderstood as a desire to prove my towniness, when it was just me being PO'd at having my game spoiled. The post did not try to explain the actions of anyone else. Why would I explain the actions of anyone else? If they wanted it explained, I'm sure they can do a better job of it than me.

[Pannonian]

Truthfully I didn't notice it since I suicided for personaly reason's which I regret now, but still I could understand him taking a screenshot of a PM saying he was mafia or the detective I would hope he would get WoG'd for that. The fact of the matter is his screenshot in no way hinders the progress of this game any which was my orignal question which you avioded answering for some reason.

If the question is why I want pevergreen wogged for a screenshot that doesn't affect the game, it's because I am personally annoyed by his breaking the same rule that caused me to suicide in Capo. Does this make sense to you? It makes sense to me. It should also make sense to Seamus and Sasaki, who as host and Wolf were also personally affected by pevergreen's indiscretions in Capo.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think we should let past grievances drop.

[ByzantineKnight]

I think we should let past grievances drop.

Seconded