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[Orb]

Vuk, homophobia is now generally used to mean 'hatred of sodomites'. I know it's literally fear of, but that's not how it's used.

I'll support much of the rest of your post with a quote from Apocalypse Now:

"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their officers won't let them write **** on their planes because it's obscene!"

[Stig]

It isn't legal to do it till you are 16, so why get them thinking like that? If we want a noble, healthy, safe society we should teach our children noble, healthy, and safe things. It is not a question of gays, but of wether we should be exposing our kids to ANY sexual lifestyles! Not saying lock 'em up and never let 'em hear the word , but why make a huge event of sex when they are not old enough to have sex?

When did you have sex education?
Here in Holland it starts when you're about 13 years old
When did you start going out?
Here in Holland it starts when you're about 15 years old
What is the legal drinking age?
16
Did that stop me from drinking when I was 15?
No
I was 17 at some point, my girlfriend from back then was 16, does that make me a paedophil?
In theory yes, but seriously

[Tribesman]

There were hardly any rape cases at all through the whole history of the Wild West (not even with prostitues). (The main reason for that is because when a family member of the victim and the whole community found out what happened, they would hunt down and kill the rapists: thus, hardly any rape.)

What a pile of manure Vuk .
yeh everyone would hunt down the rapist and string them up because thats what would happen on the really rare occasion that something that occurs throughout history would dare to show up in the wild west .
Alternatively you could rape a prostitute , burn down the brothel and get away with it by getting your lawyer to say you were sleepwalking since a nice young man from a respectable family would never do such things if he was awake .

As long as there are no lolita's there this isn't a very good comparison.

How old was that French girl who sang about a taxi driver ?

[Vuk]

When did you have sex education?
Here in Holland it starts when you're about 13 years old
When did you start going out?
Here in Holland it starts when you're about 15 years old
What is the legal drinking age?
16
Did that stop me from drinking when I was 15?
No
I was 17 at some point, my girlfriend from back then was 16, does that make me a paedophil?
In theory yes, but seriously

13 year old children shouldn't be getting sex ed. Innocent minds do not need that crap.

What a pile of manure Vuk .
yeh everyone would hunt down the rapist and string them up because thats what would happen on the really rare occasion that something that occurs throughout history would dare to show up in the wild west .
Alternatively you could rape a prostitute , burn down the brothel and get away with it by getting your lawyer to say you were sleepwalking since a nice young man from a respectable family would never do such things if he was awake .


How old was that French girl who sang about a taxi driver ?

The type of responce I've come to expect from one such as youself Tribesman. Let that suffice.

[ajaxfetish]

13 year old children shouldn't be getting sex ed. Innocent minds do not need that crap.

Why is sex ed crap? Should everyone have to learn about sex entirely through trial and error (i.e. the school of hard knocks )? If sex ed is of value, when should it be taught? After many kids have already started having sex?

And I'd be very interested to hear some support for your claims about the wild west besides movies starring John Wayne.

Ajax

[Tribesman]

The type of responce I've come to expect from one such as youself Tribesman. Let that suffice.

Interesting . You have learnt to expect tripe to be called tripe . Congratulations
So Vuk , like Ajax says have you any data that might just possibly suggest that your claim is not of the total nonsense variety ?

13 year old children shouldn't be getting sex ed. Innocent minds do not need that crap.

Definately away with the fairies on that one .
Unless of course you live in a strange world where puberty doesn't happen until you reach the legal age of majority .

[Samurai Waki]

As far as I know in the Ol' West rape was fairly common place, as there was plenty of hiding space for roaming Brigands and not enough manpower to have any decent sort of enforcement. Hell, even Law Enforcement would get in on the act sometimes, just because nobody could stop them. Thats why vigilantism became especially ubiquitous in Montana and such places, the Law was every bit as bad as the Criminal. A lot of innocent people probably died because of hear say, just so that an angry mob could be appeased. The Wild West was definantly not a friendly place in any respect to the word.

[Stig]

13 year old children shouldn't be getting sex ed. Innocent minds do not need that crap.

Innocent at 13? We were already thinking of it when at primary school. Besides if I don't get sex ed before the sex itself how on earth am I to know that I should use a condom and all those sorts of things.

[Vuk]

As far as I know in the Ol' West rape was fairly common place, as there was plenty of hiding space for roaming Brigands and not enough manpower to have any decent sort of enforcement. Hell, even Law Enforcement would get in on the act sometimes, just because nobody could stop them. Thats why vigilantism became especially ubiquitous in Montana and such places, the Law was every bit as bad as the Criminal. A lot of innocent people probably died because of hear say, just so that an angry mob could be appeased. The Wild West was definantly not a friendly place in any respect to the word.

Read "The Myth of Violence in the Old West". It is an article by Roger McGrath. Though I have read quite a bit on the subject, this I must say, sums it up the best.

It was because of the lack of unified, un-corrupt, effective law enforcement that so many killings happened in the old west. People couldn't exploit the law system and get away with rape. They knew that if they raped a woman they would be hunted down and killed by her loved ones. You obviously don't know you history well, because rape was considered one of the big no-no's. Usually even the most corrupt criminals would never do it because they knew the consequences. That doesn't only apply to rape however, but in most cases crime against women at all. The Pinkertons were the only ones who dared go after another man's loved one (and they did it often as a method of terror), but most people (not even ruthless killers) would not mess with women. Once you have studied the history of the era a bit, please post with your thoughts. Till then, it probably would be best not to post of which you do not know. ;)
Cheers,
Vuk


*Sees Tribesman's fingers fly across keyboard as he googles up*

[Vuk]

Vuk, homophobia is now generally used to mean 'hatred of sodomites'. I know it's literally fear of, but that's not how it's used.

I'll support much of the rest of your post with a quote from Apocalypse Now:

"We train young men to drop fire on people, but their officers won't let them write **** on their planes because it's obscene!"

Just because others misuse the word, he should not.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Hydrophobia is used to refer to molecules having a chemical aversion to water. What makes you think homophobia has to refer to fear?

[GoreBag]

Hydrophobia is used to refer to molecules having a chemical aversion to water.

As far as I know, Hydrophobia is the aversion to ingestion of fluids because of the pain caused by the infection in the throat of creatures assailed by rabies. I've never heard of it being applied to chemical aversion to water, but it would most certainly be done allegorically.

What makes you think homophobia has to refer to fear?

Heh. Etymology?

"Those damn gays!"
"Those damn homophobes!"

This thread is hilarious.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

As far as I know, Hydrophobia is the aversion to ingestion of fluids because of the pain caused by the infection in the throat of creatures assailed by rabies. I've never heard of it being applied to chemical aversion to water, but it would most certainly be done allegorically.

No, hydrophobia is definitely the technical term for molecules which, due to their non-polar nature, have an aversion to water. Hydrophilia is the inverse.

Hydrophobia.

[GoreBag]

Like I said, it's being applied to chemistry allegorically.