Big Cohens big gay boatride for 11 year olds.

[Prince of the Poodles]

Well, we have him on the record here taking exagerated offense to something that should be common sense. Who cares if people don't trust you because you're gay? If you set one foot outside this country people won't trust you because you're a gringo...

Common sense? How is what you said common sense? It might be common, but there is no sense in it whatsoever.

[mystic brew]

Well, we have him on the record here taking exagerated offense to something that should be common sense. Who cares if people don't trust you because you're gay? If you set one foot outside this country people won't trust you because you're a gringo...

Whether this is true or not...
I remember my grandparents saying "you can't trust all these blacks" when they emigrated to the UK.
This is textbook racism.

gay people are more than normally untrustworthy

is just as much of a fallacy as saying all american's/blacks are untrustworthy.

Just because you think this is 'common sense' don't make it so.

[Husar]

We live in an undoubtedly straight society.

I think an undoubtedly gay society would cease to exist sooner or later due to a lack of reproduction. So I'm actually happy that we have a straight society.

[PanzerJaeger]

I think an undoubtedly gay society would cease to exist sooner or later due to a lack of reproduction. So I'm actually happy that we have a straight society.

Lol, me too.

Vuk essentially asserted that environment can change a person's sexuality, which I dont agree with.

Conversely, if you were plucked from your home and put in the heart of the Castro district in San Francisco and forced to live with nothing but gay people, it wouldnt cause you to change your preference would it?

[Bijo]

It has to be both genetic and social, methinks. I'm no doctor, or scientist, or something like that.... but seriously, when observing I'd think they both have a lot of influence, and also influence on each other.

If the brain is in a certain way "homosexual", the person might behave in this way and with that influence his/her environment to behave in a certain way. And then the chain of action/reaction goes on, back and forth.

It might also be that the person grew up in a particular homosexual society, which altered (or became the basis of) the ideas in the head. In that case the genetic thing (being heterosexual) would seem to be dominated by social influence. However, it might be that the person's genetics "fight" this social influence.
There could be many examples, probably.

*yawn* Well, that's my anyway.

[Adrian II]

Hmmmm ........ is that a very very big country you live in or a very small world?

Siggable stuff again, you old drunk.

[Goofball]

Wrong. That is one of the reasons I dislike the prison system. One of my best friends in highschool commited a crime that was punished with time in prison. He had a girlfriend and was always talking about naked women. He was on the football team and was kinda a whore, but he was as straight as you can get. He went to prison and was raped by homosexuals countless times and when he got out his mind was warpped. He is in jail now for molesting a little boy. That is also one of the reasons I devoted my life to criminal research.

I suggest you need to do a little more research.

He wasn't "made gay," he was made into a rapist.

Rape has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with control and power and violence.

All your "friend" is doing is trying to get a little payback. If he wasn't gay before he went to prison, then he isn't now.

Don't tell me that someone can't be made gay. All they need is to have their minds twisted and go insain, like my friend, or to have a gay rolemodel they look up to, or to have their family and friends want them to be, or to think it is kewl, or enlightened, or whatever. People can to be made gay.

So, gay = insane?

[Tribesman]

I suggest you need to do a little more research.

You don't say , I thought that would have been obvious when he came up with this little gem........

violent time in U.S. and possibly world history, people never had to worry about the stuff that they do today. There were hardly any rape cases at all through the whole history of the Wild West (not even with prostitues). (The main reason for that is because when a family member of the victim and the whole community found out what happened, they would hunt down and kill the rapists: thus, hardly any rape.)

I devoted my life to criminal research.

Perhaps its been a short life or possibly hardly any devotion at all .

[Louis VI the Fat]

It's one of them annoying foreigners posting a hilarious video in a language you don't understand.


(forget about it if you don't get it. It's too funny to not post in this thread but it won't work in translation. Also, this will help me evade that instaban as some subtleties of the French language will hopefully be lost on Banquo. )

[Adrian II]

It's one of them annoying foreigners posting a hilarious video in a language you don't understand.


(forget about it if you don't get it. It's too funny to not post in this thread but it won't work in translation. Also, this will help me evade that instaban as some subtleties of the French language will hopefully be lost on Banquo. )

Man, that stuff must be ten years old. Farmer walks with a zimmer frame these days. Of course the frame leaves her behind uncovered.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Farmer walks with a zimmer frame these days.

Mylène is immortal and her divine hotness is forever.

You can check that behind for yourself if you copy-past 'L'Amour n'est rien - Mylène Farmer' into YouTube. It's from last year, she's forty-five in that video.

[KukriKhan]

Older woman singing French to me in a whispery, playful, girl voice... rendre heureux this old man. :)

(She could be reciting the Montreal phone book, for all I care).

However, let us go easy on the innuendo, english or otherwise, oui?

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

I have no idea who that is, but she needs to move over.

I do wish that more British female singers would adopt her 'taking her clothes off' video dynamic, however.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I have no idea who that is, but she needs to move over.

It's so funny that you should come up with Alizée here. 'She' is Mylène Farmer, a huge artist here, for some twenty years. By coincidence, she and Laurent Boutonnat write and produce all the songs of Alizée.

Alizée is impossibly beautiful, but she's also the pretty face Mylène needed as one of her projects. In your video, Alizée innocently sings about taking a nice hot bath, playing with her little fish a bit.
Mylène on the other hand released a music video of herself fully naked having a lesbian threesome in a bathtub.

I do wish that more British female singers would adopt her 'taking her clothes off' video dynamic, however.

Oh, if only Kukri wouldn't be keeping such a close watch I would so link to that bathtub orgy for you.

I'll suffice with hinting at that fish Alizée sings about in your video. Just like poor innocent Alizée, I'll let you guess what double-meaning Mylène had in mind when she made Alizée sing about being playful with her 'poisson'. The whole song is both childlike innocent and outrageously obscene. (hey don't ban me, I didn't link to it...)

Ah, Mylène Farmer is the greatest post-feminist poet alive.

At least now you know why Alizée has that goldfish embroided on her behind in your video, and why she sensually wiggles about so much when she turns around to show it.

[Pannonian]

For the benefit for English monolinguists who may wish to learn French, here are some translations of Alizee's songs, complete with the original paroles plus footnotes on where the translater had to choose between literal or interpretive translations. A worthy academic project, I must say.

It was said it couldn't be done. It was said it shouldn't be tried. People laughed. People scorned. People quit. I quit. But no song will ever get the best of me!

So I present to you what I think is the definitive Moi...Lolita translation.

[Del Arroyo]

What's common sense is that we trust people less who are different from us. If you disagree with this statement, you simply haven't gotten around enough.

Whenever you're in a situation where you don't fit in, sometimes it's their fault, sometimes it's your fault, but either way you have to deal with it. A victim's attitude is a losing attitude, except in court.

[Ser Clegane]

There is quite a difference between saying that it is common sense (actually "common knowledge" would be the term that would be applicable in this context) that people put less trust into people who are different, and saying that it is common sense that a specific group is untrustworthy.

The first describes the current situation, the latter justifies it.

Apart from that I would rather say that generally not trusting anybody who is different is an indication that you "haven't gotten around enough" to be more open-minded towards people who are "different"

[Del Arroyo]

In four years since high school I've spent total one outside the country and one in San Francisco. I speak Spanish and Arabic fluently, not in the American sense, but rather in the European sense, which means I actually can and do use them regularly. But this isn't a dick-measuring contest so really I've got nothing else to say.