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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
    However, he does have the privilege of being the only major Democrat candidate who's not a total hypocrite on Iraq. At least he was consistently against it from it's outset. More than I can say for the other political opportunists running in his party.
    Almost as amusing as the coming spectacle of Republican candidates repudiating their president and their war, don't you think?
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    McCain seems to be the only Rep. Candidate with enough nerve to stick by his guns and admit that he supported the president then, and continues to do so for the most part now. He's the only candidate that I doubt will do a 180, even though McCain has fallen out of my graces since last year.

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    Saw him on the news..I would vote him.

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    I kind of hope he wins because it will shut up a lot of minority professional victims once and for all.
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    Well, now's the true test, isn't it? He's going to get slimed, sleazed, besmirched and generally roughed up. And that's just Hillary at work. Just wait 'till the Republican slime machine gets up and running.

    If he's tough and organized enough to make it through the coming mudstorm, then we can talk.

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    I think you may be underestimating the tenacity and resourcefulness of professional victims.

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    I trust everyone has seen the unbelievably funny clip where a guest on Colbert asserts that Obama isn't black. Hi-lar-i-ous.

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    Colbert: It sounds to me like you're judging whether or not a person is black not on the color of their skin, but on the content of their character, which I think realizes Dr. Kings' dream in a very special way.

    Dickerson:
    I think you mean not so much special as perverted.

    Colbert:
    Would this make it more acceptable to the African American community, if he shared some of the experience, the black American experience, I mean he isn't the descendant of slaves, but what if for a brief period of time he were en-slaved, but you know, nothing racist, he could be Jesse Jackson's slave, or Al Sharpton's slave, and they could say, ok you're free now, no foul, no harm, and then he's got all the street cred he needs.

    Dickerson:
    I think you may have me there, actually.

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    I hope Obama wins. I'll vote for him.

    However, I believe, despite all the hoopla, when the votes are finally cast, he will have no chance. It will be the usual white male with ties to big money.

    It was only two generations ago that Afro-Americans were lynched, schools were segregated, and "mixed race" marriages were illegal in about half the states. I think racism is still lurking under the current facade, and in many cases is still blatant.

    There's a huge segment of the US population that is horrified that we might have a president with a black father. In fact, Obama might even get assassinated if his chances look too good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur
    I trust everyone has seen the unbelievably funny clip where a guest on Colbert asserts that Obama isn't black. Hi-lar-i-ous.
    It is hilarious.

    Actually, she is right on the button. Although it can seem ridiculous if looked at facetiously (especially her "African-African-American" label), grouping all decendents of Africans in one category is over-generalization. Not only is he not related in any direct way to most Afro-Americans (who are mostly descendents of slaves from West Africa), he has one black parent and one white parent. Like Bob Marley, Jimi Hendrix, and Vanessa Williams, they are touted as blacks, when it's equally accurate to call them "white".

    Of course, I acknowledge in each of these cases that these people had to endure racism based on public perception of them as "black". But the whole situation demonstrates what I have been saying all along. Race is an illusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
    I kind of hope he wins because it will shut up a lot of minority professional victims once and for all.
    He's not black enough because his ancestors weren't slaves.
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    Who stands a prayer of a chance, ironic since the other two are reverends...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshal Murat
    I am moving to Britain if Hillary gets elected.
    No, you won't.
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