Kingdom of Ireland Mini-Mod

**Casuir** · 02-16-2007, 01:27

Limerick should be much further west than it is there, on the coast at the mouth of the shannon. Also Waterford was a more important town then Wexford at this time and after, Irish for both is Port Lairge and Loch Garman respectively, Armagh is Ard Macha.

**Lord Condormanius** · 02-16-2007, 03:46

Sorry, but Limerick is not on the coast. It is about 50 miles or more up the Shannon from the west coast. I think we all know by now that these maps are not to scale. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure that you noticed that there is no river on the map for it to be placed at the mouth of. The Wexford/Waterford thing is a typo. I considered Ard Macha for Armagh, but I am not sure when the switch took place. I'll look into it.

As much of a pleasure as your post was to read, it did not address any of the issues I was seeking help with.

**Casuir** · 02-16-2007, 05:05

Limerick is situated at the point where the shannon meets the sea, the long inlet to its west is saltwater. The inlets missing from the map though and I mistook the border marking for a river. Even with the inaccurate map its situated more to the west. Armagh is the anglicised version of ard macha, so logically it would have been renamed sometime after the norman invasion, ard macha is still used as the irish name for armagh. If you want to be accurate about naming waterford and wexford were originally called Vedrarfjord and Waes Fjord though I'm not sure when these fell out of use, both would have still had substantial norse populations at the time of the game start.

As for your actual problems the stratmap agent and banner textures are in the data/models_strat/textures folder, they're just straightforward dds files. The battlemap banners are in the data/banners folder, you'll need the texture converter to edit these. As for the accents, I'm not sure the sounds can be edited but if they can theres a number of Irish here who might be willing to lend their vocal talents towards it.

**Lord Condormanius** · 02-16-2007, 05:19

Thank you very much. I actually have moved Limerick west a few squares. I realize the situation with the Shannon on the west, but to put Limerick on the coast of the Atlantic Ocean would be far from accurate as far as by the limitations of this map. I also moved the Wexford province west by 3 and renamed Port Lairge.

...I realize the map needs a little bit of tweaking...

It is based on Spurius' BigMap (I can't remember which version) but I have added many provinces (total 199). I just unpacked all of my files the other day and am getting back into this after a long absence due to hardware trouble. I am basically trying to learn this stuff as I go along. I am less concerned about the map at this point though, as I already know how to fix that stuff.

As far as the accents are concerned, there are sound text files (how's that for an oxymoron?) that can be downloaded. These files, I suppose, tell the game which sound files to acces for which faction. I have the files, but I can't seem to make them work.

I'll try the banners, etc. Thanks for the help.

**Casuir** · 02-16-2007, 05:57

iirc pathing for the sounds with mod folders is broken, you'd have to place them in the stock data folder along with any textures you've modified and start your game with this in the batch file "medieval2.exe @mymod.cfg --io.file_first"

**Lord Condormanius** · 02-16-2007, 06:08

That's how I've been going. There are several things that the mod switch doesn't allow. What I did was make a seperate .cgf, .bat and mod folder for my vanilla files. This way I can mod the hell out of the regular install and still have a mod folder with the original files.

**Antagonist** · 02-17-2007, 01:03

Cool. Maybe not the most historical thing ever, but Ireland was certainly closer to a feudal kingdom then to the anarchic nowhere it gets to be in vanilla.

Some quick ideas/suggestions:

Gael Gaedhil - While there are numerous variations of the spelling on this, it definately should be Gall Gaedhil or something, "Gall" is means "foriegner", Gael and Gaedhil are just variant spellings of the same word I believe.

I'd drop at least the Noble Archers if I were you, they're particularly ahistorical.
And if you're reskinning the highlanders, for god's sake get rid of the warpaint, beards, kilts and bare chests, not good.

Also, have you thought about a few later units? I don't know that much about what went on there but I believe firearms were in use there by the end of M2TW's period, for example. Demi-Lancers were used there in the C16 as well, I believe.

From my reading about who was "in charge"; Since Brian Boruime at the turn of the C11 the position of High King had been strengthened so that it was felt to be a position of real authority over the entire island, and efforts were being made towards centralisation and unity, but I don't know to what extend they really succeeded. Here's wiki's list of rulers.

Also about historians, Ranika has been away from the community for quite a while but his cousin Anthony is around, I'd ask him.

Good luck,

Antagonist

**Lord Condormanius** · 02-19-2007, 06:58

Here is what I think my final Ireland will look like. I still need help with modding graphics files. If anyone has any help to share, it would be greatly appreciated.

Also, here is the list of names that I am using in the game:

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