Weird things you see on the battlefield.

**caravel** · 02-12-2007, 14:20

All of this is down to errors in the clipping and pathfinding aspects of the game engine. This is a common thing in 3D games where the 3D models have to navigate obstacles, well any games in fact. The unit you've mentioned is probably actually fighting, though it's visible animation has become pushed out of place. If he was on open terrain you probably wouldn't have seen it, though among buildings/obstacls or within a city displacement is common because the units go out of formation in order to navigate the narrow areas. What I can't work out is why the boundaries had to be the actual buildings themselves. This just helps the units to get stuck and causes them to be visible through walls. Placing invisible clip fields with non square corners slightly out from the walls and making the streets inside the towns a little wider (this always helps the AI also) would have helped a lot.

**Upxl** · 02-13-2007, 20:29

Once when seizing a city, one unit was standing (idle) on a corner of the fully captured walls.
One by one all the men of this unit started to throw themselves off the wall into a horrible and pointless death.

I decided to not to interrupt them and see how many would survive these self-destructing spasms.
The entire unit got wiped out.
Didn’t felt the least bit bad about it cause I don’t wont morons like that in my army.

I think they where principes.

**Lorenzo_H** · 02-14-2007, 11:22

When units are fighting, particularly Spartan Hoplites for me, I often notice a single man MILES and MILES away from the rest of his unit, and I'm like, how the heck, and what the heck?

**Dindylas** · 02-14-2007, 11:58

I've had the following happen to me while I was playing as Armenians. I was in the middle of a battle and the armies had made contact. I instructed my light cavalry to charge the flanks of the enemy (from both flanks), because my infantry was outnumbered and slightly outclassed. So, I told them to fly like the wind and they... ignored me. Fully and completely. They were fresh and eager, they was happy knowing that the flanks were secured, but they were also not moving one bit. They were sitting there, watching their countrymen die, one by one. Needless to say that I lost the battle. After the infantry fell or fled, my general among them, the cavalry was attacked and it broke in no time. In the end only they remained alive. I disbanded the units immediately, imagining that my generals sold the insubordinate men as slaves.

**caravel** · 02-14-2007, 14:12

I've seen that quite a lot. Another issue I've had is with Hoplites. At times they won't go into a phalanx if they've already been fighting in melee. I can pull them out of melee, form them up, click the phalanx button and... nothing.

**antisocialmunky** · 02-14-2007, 23:07

Phalanxes attacking backwards. They moonwalked into a unit of perplexed phalangites and promptly died... in style.

**germanpeon** · 02-15-2007, 00:08

I had a similar, if not the same, problem as Dindylas. I was playing as the Julii and I had just repelled an army of Gauls, but I still had to fight their reinforcements. Problem was, I couldnt get my general to go back behind the infantry. He was facing backwards and needless to say his unit was wrecked and he died. But I still won the battle.

**ByzantineKnight** · 02-27-2007, 11:03

Originally Posted by diablodelmar

When units are fighting, particularly Spartan Hoplites for me, I often notice a single man MILES and MILES away from the rest of his unit, and I'm like, how the heck, and what the heck?

I have a problem with this when I'm chasing down routers with cavalry, the cavalry charges at the middle of the unit, when there is 2 men left that are half the map apart, it gets kinda hard to kill them all, lol.

**caravel** · 02-28-2007, 10:52

I saw a weird thing yesterday, which I have seen once or twice before now I come to think of it. My forces had assaulted the last Macedonian City in the north (I forget it's name) and had killed every last man (or so I thought) yet the flags in the plaza didn't change to my faction's (the Greek Cities) colours. I had a glance around and saw nothing then, looking at the minimap there was an enemy marker right in the centre of the city, in the plaza to be precise. Also my archers kept firing into the plaza at my own men!!?? So I began pulling my units out of there to get a better look, as they had all converged in that place and it was quite busy. It was then that I spotted the solitary Phalanx Pikeman router right in the thick of it but still alive. Just moving my units "unblocked it" and he was cut down in a few seconds.