To: tolerance, understanding and democracy: please return to sender

[Don Corleone]

I thought the slogans were brain-dead. If they really wanted to get one another shot I am sure they could have done better.

They should try this out in Britton. I know they aren't much into interaction with strangers but I am sure there is a place or two in London where you might get dragged from your car and beaten for some inane slogan painted on your car.

Has it ever been a difficult task to find the violent streak in the human race?

Nope, it's just Americans. It's a proven fact that Europeans are superior to Americans in every way. And it's not just rural small-town folk, that could have been Senators Hatch, Cornyn and McCain rolling up in the back of that truck (the pitbull was a nice touch).

I get the joke, but frankly, if this is what you guys do for yourselves for entertainment, you've got issues. Go ahead and mastrubate yourselves silly about how base and ignorant Americans are and how superior you all are. Last I checked, we haven't burned down a discotech with 300 immigrants inside (how's the Gothenberg police coming with that investegation, anyway?) We don't paint swaztikas all over Jewish cemetaries either, but I guess that's high-brow racism, cause it happens in France.

[Sir Moody]

Don... its a BBC program ie UK not France or Germany hell half of the UK seem to want us out of Europe entirely so take that rant to another thread...

[Don Corleone]

It's a common thread I see coming from over there, and Gothenberg is in Sweden, not Germany. I can't believe you'd allow a stupid Merican (a GWB voting one at that!) correct you on Geography.

My point is you all have plenty of rubbish in your own back yard, yet you insist on delighting yourselves as to how superior you are to America. We have 310 million people over here. Yes, you're going to find a few hayseeds. Its seems to be a favorite European pasttime to seek them out and hold them up as the evdientiary archetype (yes some of us dumb 'mericans know what dem words mean) of Americans and therefore, we all fall in somewhere along those lines.

And just for the record, the only time I've ever been accosted on the street (walking home from dinner, minding my own business) was in tolerant old Amsterdam, where a young Dutchy felt the need to follow my wife and I home screaming F-ing Americans, we're gonna f-ing kill you.... all the way back to my hotel. Also had 2 waitresses refuse to wait on me later that week. Now, there were also some very friendly, very nice people in Amsterdam. My point is, you find all kinds in all places.

These "Americans are such a bunch of dumb hicks" moments say more about you then they do about us.

[Don Corleone]

And if these guys wanted to really show they had balls, and not just make Americans look like a bunch of ignorant, violent apes, they could have shown some real cojones and gotten 3 seats, in the bleachers at Fenway Park on a Saturday afternoon. They then would have arrived at the ballpark dressed head to toe in Yankee gear and made disparaging comments about the Red Sox for the rest of the day.

Then I would be impressed with their bravery. Now, I'm just stung by the vision you Europeans seem to have of us, and it's one that comes up frequently.

[Sir Moody]

Don i think you are only helping the sterotype along here by Ranting about it - its a joke hell you should see some of the Top Gear jokes when Clarkson was driving through France - they were not trying to be "tough" its a Car show ffs they were being funny and making a joke i dont think they ever expected it to be taken seriously which is what the hamster tried to tell the people at the garage

don if you want us to stop tarring you with one brush stop doing the same to us

oh and

and Gothenberg is in Sweden, not Germany.

/Sarcasm no really is it? /Sarcasm off

I was talking about Europeans and France and Gemrany are no1 and 2 of the Sterotypical Europe you seem to think we live in

[Louis VI the Fat]

* squak, whine *

Oh lighten up. These guys are simply British Don. They are taking the piss. It's what they do, it's in their genes. Just tune into auntie Beeb any day of the week and you'll see where these guys are coming from. British humour and all that.

Now that I've learned from Sir Moody that these guys drove down France I'm just dying to see that show and find out what they came up with.

Just relax, half the people in this thread have already mentioned that these guys would get the same kind of result in either Glasgow, Britain itself, any rural area, or with any dumb humans anywhere.

[Don Corleone]

Squawk. Whine.

You have a point, Luigi. I can actually take a joke. It's just after 40 or 50 times, you start to wonder if it's a really a joke. Every 6 months or so, there's a thread about just how stupid and regressed Americans really are, and yes, like a sucker, I get into them every time. I guess I could prove how sophisticated and intellectual I am by laughing along and agreeing we're all a bunch of dumb fools, but I just can't seem to do that.

Anyway, we're not going to cross this divide. Europeans are going to continue thinking Americans are knuckle-dragging monkeys, and you're going to claim it's just a joke whenever we protest. God knows we make plenty of anti-European jokes over here, so I suppose it's fair enough, and it all washes out in the end.

I don't think the Hillary or Country Music comments would have been that dangerous. The guy with "Manlove rules" was in serious trouble.

I think the station owner got pissed not because of the comments themselves, but because she didn't like being laughed at as a dumb redneck (listen to her verbal barrage, she's actually pissed about the cameras and the "You think we're laughable, huh?" comments.

The klan arriving (and I have little doubt it was them or some associated group of like-minded individuals that arrived) was an interesting twist. I'm surprised they were dumb enough to throw rocks at a camera crew, but hey, they're klansmen....

[Ironside]

Last I checked, we haven't burned down a discotech with 300 immigrants inside (how's the Gothenberg police coming with that investegation, anyway?)

I know that it's just a rant, but I'm quite certain that the Gothenburg fire has been coming up before (big deja vú).

So I can inform you that the 4 Iranian youths that was the arsonists has been convicted, either in 1999 or 2000.

And it was almost 400 people in there, were 63 of them died . That the arrangers did cram in about twice as much people than allowed and blocked emergency exits didn't exactly help to keep the numbers down.

I'm curious though, did the US media push it quite big as a racist deed and then did mention the rest in this size if at all?

Do you remember why you know about the Gothenburg fire and remember anything about it DC?