Unit Art from Caratacos

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Recently we asked for some help sketching a new unit, and we had a few very helpful responses in the thread. One person sent us a sketch and then colored it in also, and we knew immediately we had to convince him to join the team: Caratacos.

The first unit that he has drawn for us has now been created, and he has moved on to drawing a number of other units as well. We will be using the art for unit development, but they're too good to just let it go at that. We will also be using them for other purposes more related to promotional uses. Here is a very simple unit that he has just finished - that could be from any number of places, but instead of just showing you the art, it's more fun to let you get a good look at the work and take some guesses as to the unit's name (in English) and the faction/place it belongs to/is found.

The other unit we'll put up here is one that he is using in his signature banner, so since the cat is partially out of the bag there, we might as well let it the rest of the way out too. Take your guess at the unit's name (in English) and the faction/place it belongs to/is found:

We will be putting most of his work up in public as soon as we can, but since most of the units he has drawn haven't been completed by the unit model and texture artists, we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. So, get used to seeing his work - there is a good deal of it on our internal board already and we hope to see a lot more!

(BTW, please don't hit "quote" and leave the full images in the reply)

[Caratacos]

*sob* I bet i'm not allowed to play this game *sniff*

[Tuuvi]

the second one is a getai unit, I can tell by the pattern on his sheild.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

The second one looks like the Roman Antesignani, but with a pants and a beard.

I think I know what the first one is.

...shoes...

[Hydromorph]

I am not going to guess but i will say the Neck Torc and Wicker Shield are good clues. The second unit looks to be from Thrace.

[Fondor_Yards]

Bah I always bomb these, but still must try! Those are some kick ass picture you have there, that's talent.

1. Silver Torc*hmm silver? only seen gold so far* so celtic, but no woad so not from british isles...and the wickersheild seems like it was only used in the east, so I'm going to say a Galatian Skirmisher Unit, recruited in galatia by everyone since it's a low level unit

2. That Shield+Dacian Sica means Getai, and has celtic chain...also fighting with spear overhand like a million other units...due to the high quality gear I'm going to say an elite Getai Spearmen like the Thorakitai Stratiotai, maybe only open after the getai king considates his power centrally?

*sob* I bet i'm not allowed to play this game *sniff*

Nope, but you can tell me the answers

[Tarquinius]

The first one looks lusitanian to me for some reason. The second is probably geatai or thracian

[BigTex]

Congratulations Caratacos.

Can't recall the name of the first one, but it isnt Lusitanni it has a metal spear. It's the skirmisher from the british Isle's. ~Edit : the Celtic Skirmisher/balroae. Belongs to the Casse and found in the British Isle's.

The second one is the Galatian Shock Infantry, Galatikoi Kuarothoroi. Belongs to most factions who can recruits Galatian's, found in Thrace, Dacia and parts of Asia Minor.

[Justiciar]

I'd say the first one is; Aedui/Skirmisher/Cisapline Gaul?

The second one's a toughy. I acctually thought it was a Galatian of some discription to begin with. Though it does seem more likely that it's a Getai unit, or perhaps a Macedonian version. So aye, I'll go with that; Makedonia/Thracian Spearman/West of the Black Sea.

Bloody sexeh work!

[Omanes Alexandrapolites]

Well done Cartacos! Your artwork truley is beyond stunning!

As for what the first unit is I say:
Galatian Light Skirmisher

And for the second unit:
Galatian Spearman (a sort of skirmisher/spearman for the Galatians)

[Bava]

Hm, the first could be a sauromatae skirmisher.
The second one looks like the Galatikoi Kuarothoroi but as they are already in the game, i have no idea. Maybe Getai Heavy Inf?

Bloody sexeh work!

Seconded.

[Watchman]

The first guy seems to be carrying quite an interesting combination of items. The torc is a Celtic (and to a lesser degree German and Dacian/Thracian) affectation, the woven shield has a very "eastern" appereance, and isn't that dagger/shortsword thingy the Scythian akinakes ? My bet is he's some sort of tribal skirmisher/light infantry type from the border zone between Getic and German regions and the steppe - perhaps a sort of "cultural hybrid" unit like the Aljaz-Gae in the liminal zone between the Germans and Gauls ?

The second guy is decidedly some sort of Dacian or Thracian heavy infantryman - the curved sica is a dead giveaway (or alternatively a total red herring taken from some very obscure historical curio detail... ). The mail looks pretty Celtic, but given the amount of cultural exchange that apparently went on between the groups that mens little. Perhaps he's roughly the Getic equivalent of the same relation as exist between the Iphicratean and Classical hoplite, in this case the phalanx equivalent being the Thorakitai Stratiotai ?

[Gazius]

The second guy looks like he's wearing a wrist watch.... Or at least it looks too narrow to do much besides indicate rank of some sort.

But indeed, very nice artwork. And I'm sure you'll get to play, when EB1 is finished. Or when the units are all done, whatever coems first.

[Obelics]

me too think the first one is a sauromate skirmisher... the second dont even try to guess...

anyway great talented work, just wondering how much i have to wait for having all the unitcards like that instead of the 3d models...

[Caratacos]

anyway great talented work, just wondering how much i have to wait for having all the unitcards like that instead of the 3d models...

**contemplates the enormity of the task proposed**


**feeling faint**


**collapses into fetal position and proceeds to suck thumb**

[Obelics]

anyway caratacos + diskoskull could make it, let's say... in about a pair of years of pure sacrifice..., but i read somewhere that diskoskull is apparently disappeared, so caratacos have to do it all alone, well, so 4 years could be sufficient... i can wait!

[HFox]

Very, very nice work......I'm jealous....my thanks

[paullus]

haha.

people are getting colder and colder on the first one...

[Teleklos Archelaou]

FYI FY, I think that metal is tin, not silver.

[Sarcasm]

Bah I always bomb these, but still must try! Those are some kick ass picture you have there, that's talent.

1. Silver Torc*hmm silver? only seen gold so far* so celtic, but no woad so not from british isles...and the wickersheild seems like it was only used in the east, so I'm going to say a Galatian Skirmisher Unit, recruited in galatia by everyone since it's a low level unit.

Just for the record, not every metal that has a silvery glow is silver. Also wicker shields are currently underrepresented in the West in my opinion, so don't think it's an Eastern thing only.

EDIT: Dammit, beat me to it...that'll teach me not to watch TV, while I'm making a reply.

[Conqueror]

Tin torc? That makes me think of the British islands tin trade No idea whether britons used wicker shields, I'll just take a guess that it's a briton skirmisher unit.

[-Praetor-]

First one?

Is a Caledonian Skirmisher.

Second?

A galatian or getic shock troop.

anyway great talented work, just wondering how much i have to wait for having all the unitcards like that instead of the 3d models...

**contemplates the enormity of the task proposed**


**feeling faint**


**collapses into fetal position and proceeds to suck thumb**

LMAO!!!!

[Hydromorph]

First

Place: Thrace
Unit Type: Thracian Thorakitai

Second

Place: Scythia
Unit Type: Scythian Skirmisher


lets move those two, Second one is first and first one is second.

[Eduorius]

My guesses are...

The first one is a Celtic skirmisher. People must know that the Picts used squared shields like that unit.

I say that the first unit is from Brittain, so it must belongs to the Casse unless it is some type of AOR unit.

Highland Skirmishers.


The second one I say must be from Dacia.

I say they must be Getai Noble Infantry.

[Watchman]

Eh, the first one couldn't be from the British Isles. It ain't all scrawled over with blue ink like every unit from there thus far...

[Teleklos Archelaou]

More people are closer on the second unit it seems. Maybe we will post the description of it a little later.

[paullus]

I hope you don't mind, TA:

The Agema Orditon, or Agema of the Ordes, is an elite guard among the Getai. It traces its lineage back to the old capital at Helis, and is the pinnacle of the Getic professional infantry. Armed with a long thrusting spear and a sica made of high quality iron, they can be very effective in close combat with infantry and even cavalry. Protected by an iron Thraikian helm with a large iron crest, a large oval shield with a strong iron boss, a coat of mail, and greaves worn under their baggy trousers, they are one of the most heavily armored units in any Getic army. They are an expensive unit to train and maintain, but they are a valuable force on the battlefield, capitalizing on Getic fierceness and borrowed Hellenic and Keltic techniques to stand toe-to-toe with enemy heavy infantry. /n/Historically, after the Galatai destroyed Helis, the surviving population--identified, it seems, as the Ordes tribe, moved north of the Istros and rebuilt their capital at a site now known as Argedava. What had been a small, poor fishing and agricultural settlement quickly became one of the largest in all of the Getic lands. The population at Helis had already been well-acquainted with advanced metallurgy, and traded extensively with Skythians, Kelts, and especially Hellenes. This did not change at Argedava, which--judging from archaeological remains--was home to many of the best-equipped and most disciplined Getic soldiers.

EDIT: as per TA's post below

[Teleklos Archelaou]

BTW, we haven't run that name through the screening process yet though - I suspect it will drop to Agema instead of Agemata.

[Tuuvi]

yes! I knew the second one was a getai unit.

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

Have either of these units made it into the internal release? If not will they make it into the .81 release?