Incongruous 08:09 02-23-2007
Hmm I do believe that Aussies are somewhat no longer capable of taking at us with a bat. Or indeed at the kiwis, which shouldn't be too hard as they're just a bunch of flightless birds.
Avicenna 09:02 02-23-2007
KMT+CPC are at war.
(Taiwan and China for those who don't know)
Conradus 09:23 02-23-2007
I though China didn't recognise Taiwan as a nation, how can they be at war then?
Unless they just regard it as an internal conflict against some rebels.
Pannonian 09:23 02-23-2007
Originally Posted by Tiberius:
KMT+CPC are at war.
(Taiwan and China for those who don't know)
Does KMT still claim legitimate government of the whole of China? I've heard stories about the government in Taipei, at least in the early stages, reserving offices (positions) that dealt with the mainland, as if they were still the established government there.
The fact that Carthage was destroyed by the romans makes the signing of the treaty a complete nonsense. Probably more a PR stunt, done to attract tourists.
Kralizec 18:48 02-23-2007
Originally Posted by Pannonian:
Does KMT still claim legitimate government of the whole of China? I've heard stories about the government in Taipei, at least in the early stages, reserving offices (positions) that dealt with the mainland, as if they were still the established government there.
They used to take seat in the UN Security Council on behalf of (entire) China.
Conradus 18:55 02-23-2007
But that's a long time ago and now Taiwan doens't even have a seat in the UN. And if I'm not mistaking at late more and more Taiwanese are inclined to give up their claims on China or even their independence. (thought I read that in an article somewhere that the whole independence wasn't very popular with the younger generations)
Avicenna 10:16 02-25-2007
Polls show that in recent years, the trend is more pro-independence.
The Wizard 01:52 02-28-2007
Originally Posted by Pannonian:
Does KMT still claim legitimate government of the whole of China? I've heard stories about the government in Taipei, at least in the early stages, reserving offices (positions) that dealt with the mainland, as if they were still the established government there.
They stopped using maps claiming the whole of China (plus Tibet, Mongolia, and sizeable portions currently belonging to Pakistan, India and Burma) back in 2004.
As to the entire political status of Taiwan thing: the Kuomintang and the so-called "Pan-Blue Alliance," a front of political parties affiliated with the once-single party, are leaning towards reunification (the One China, Two Systems idea of Beijing's; the KMT party leadership even visited the mainland a while back), while the current ruling party and its affiliates, the so-called "Pan-Green Alliance," lean towards Taiwan independence.
The People's Republic of China is strongly opposed to this last idea, because it would essentially allow the island to be recognized internationally, join the UN, and all of that without the PRC being able to do one bloody thing about it without invading (unlike now, where it uses its economical attractivity to force, say, Western nations to not recognize the ROC if they want any trade relations with the PRC) -- which would likely solicit an immediate response from the U.S. and allies in a now-legitimized counterattack.
Why the KMT won't support it? That's simple: it'll lose the last vestiges of its lost power and heritage on the mainland (the flag, complete with party symbol; the name, Republic of China; etc.). Plus, it's a mainlander Chinese versus Taiwan Chinese thing, too. The island majority is obviously scared of a PRC military (both conventional as well as unconventional, that would be nuclear) response; the crucible would likely be a diplomatic game in assuring Western support before declaring the ROC to be the Republic of Taiwan.
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