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    I, for one, geatly appreciate the work done on formations. In various occasions, I had the occasion to witness that the AI is pushed to the limit of what can be handled by the hardcoded limitations:
    - proactive yet never suicidal skirmishers
    - cavalry trying to flank me
    - infantry 2nd line in reserve engaging when appropriate
    - consistent wall assault

    Then, of course, I could list a looong list of stupid decisions... but come on Dayve, we all know the AI has its hard-coded flaws, and I would not even blame CA for those considering how tricky it must be to set up all these rules for an AI to react well to the unexpectable human player.

    So I take profit of this thread to congratulate the responsibles for EB formations, which are very effective compared to the more well-known ones: you've made a great job guys, and be sure it is appreciated :)

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    Default Re: The best formation mod out there?

    Oh, it's you again.
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    You're kidding? People actually worked on the formations? People on the EB team? I thought you guys were just leaving the formations until last or something, or just leaving them as they were in vanilla and letting people choose their own formation mods.

    If people actually worked on the battle AI then i must apologise, i honestly thought that nobody worked on them yet because they are so utterly horrible, just like in vanilla RTW.

    There's no point trying to deny it or flame me for it, the current AI is worse than bad and in my opinion entirely game killing. You have this wonderful mod with all this information about ancient buildings, traits, biographies, realistic units, good unit animations... The only thing letting it down is the AI on the battlefield, constantly running away, bunching all its units up to allow itself to be easily surrounded and flanked, always engaging the entire army rather than holding some in reserve, basically just ruining a battle every time.

    If nobody appreciates honesty anymore that's fine, i'll go and have a look for a formation mod myself, i'm sure i can find a couple of good ones in a short space of time.

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    Will you actually read what I wrote? I said you had a legitimate question, but saying a bunch of chimpanzees must have done the current AI work is just incredibly rude. Honesty is one thing, being a little twerp is another. You apologize and then get mad and say we are denying it and people are flaming you. Blah.

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    Default Re: The best formation mod out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayve
    Rabble rabble rabble rabble
    Teleklos said that you had a legitimate question, he (and now I) took offence at your derogratory remarks about the EB team members who worked on the formation part of EB; but that is all.

    No one has told you to shut up, or go away. Ludens has answered your question, Geoffrey S has made a remark about your return, and Numahr has defended EB's formations as being on the whole quite good.

    Where is the flame? Certainly there is a denial that you are right, Numahr indicates that his opinion is different from yours (which you must agree is as legitimate as yours, seeing as you both have different experiances of the game), but I that cannot amount to him not appreciating honesty.

    Basically, what is your problem?

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    Default Re: The best formation mod out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    Where is the flame?
    Quote Originally Posted by Telekos Archelaou
    Why is there a need to throw trash like this out there?

    Calling someone's comments trash is flaming them. Furthermore referring to what someone said as

    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    Rabble rabble rabble rabble
    is disrepecting them too.
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