M2TW Charges

[Caerfanan]

Of course, they will have the same effect as a catapult!

Horses = Siege weapons?

[Lord Cazaric]

Of course. They are certaintly not hand-to-hand, and as soon as they are lifted off their feet by the superhuman soldiers, they no longer count as cavalry, but are ranged!

That leaves archery and siege engines. And except for one of these superhuman soldiers (Ali ibn Ali ibn Ali by name), the soldiers don't fire them from bows.

Therefore, except for Ali ibn Ali ibn Ali's steed (steed? Arrow?), they must be siege weapons, as they are thrown like rocks.

[Xehh II]

You are strange, why would it be like a seige weapon?
I think it'd be more like those funny little javelin guys but without javelins.
Because they would be short range, AP and they are thrown.

[Caerfanan]

You are strange, why would it be like a seige weapon?
I think it'd be more like those funny little javelin guys but without javelins.
Because they would be short range, AP and they are thrown.

Soooooo....

The horse not being efficient against a wall (I guess), it shouldn't be a siege weapon, that's right. You have a point here Xehh II!

It could be the non explosive equivalent of the Naphta throwers, though, the guy having a chance of being crushed by his own missile, and the missile being capable of killing several people at once. what do you guys think?

So the unit size should be 12, showing the difficulty to train the horse-thrower.

(and now I remember Xehh II asking a simple question about charging in M2TW, my, where are we!)

[Xehh II]

Soooooo....

The horse not being efficient against a wall (I guess), it shouldn't be a siege weapon, that's right. You have a point here Xehh II!

It could be the non explosive equivalent of the Naphta throwers, though, the guy having a chance of being crushed by his own missile, and the missile being capable of killing several people at once. what do you guys think?

So the unit size should be 12, showing the difficulty to train the horse-thrower.

(and now I remember Xehh II asking a simple question about charging in M2TW, my, where are we!)

Yes! You are more right than me, they would be more like non-explosive Naptha Throwers.

[Lord Cazaric]

What mod? If you're referring to Hellas: Total War and Steppe: Total War, they are simply ideas for the next games, or if someone would like to, as mods for the original Medieval Total War - it's the only one I have!

And Caerfanan, I'd advise you to cut down the number of soldiers in a horse-ranged unit to 5. They are VERY hard to find. Especially ones such as Ali ibn Ali ibn Ali (whose name, for those of you who don't know, means Ali son of Ali son of Ali).

Thank you for acknowledging my insanity. It is why I am still a junior member.

[Caerfanan]

And Caerfanan, I'd advise you to cut down the number of soldiers in a horse-ranged unit to 5. They are VERY hard to find. Especially ones such as Ali ibn Ali ibn Ali (whose name, for those of you who don't know, means Ali son of Ali son of Ali).

Mmmmm.

So we could have two types of units:

- one of a size of 5 with Ali ibn Ali ibn alis as launchers, and armored horses. The Alis having huge bows acting as ballistas, this would be artillery.
- one with a size of 12, being the non explosive naphta throwers sometimes dying under their own horses (% when tired?)

Thank you for acknowledging my insanity. It is why I am still a junior member.

You're not insane. You're... creative?

[Spajus]

Cazaric, I fear you are being ridiculous.

You are attempting to define 'horses' as seige weapons? p'shaw! Your logic is flawed. You have stated the exception which proves the rule, in Ali ibn ali ibn Ali, and his bow-drawn-horse. However, the Ballistae, an acknowledged seige weapon, is also essentially a giant bow.

Faced with such hasty logic, how can you expect anyone to take what you are saying seriously? (A pity, because I would tend to agree - artillery!)

By the way, when's Cazaric-mod coming out?