Help EB team with Celtic Chariots !

[Spendios]

Gentlemen, I'm totally unable to integrate those guys correctly

The correct vehicle should look like that :



If any of you make me a step by step working tutorial he will gain my eternal gratitude (and maybe even a secret screenshot )

The model is correct but the game always choose the wrong vanilla skin.

I've packed and repacked, changed the names and such but can't get it. So please don't post if you have not tried the thing.

Thanks !

[Tellos Athenaios]

Just my ignorance, but anyway: have you tried to both overwrite the Vanilla file and have a file in the apropiate EB\ subfolder?

[Teleklos Archelaou]

Just noticed this thread. Maybe someone there can help.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=103526

[Moros]

Didn't Vercingetorix know how to implent them?

[The Celt]

Ermm guys, I don't see any entry for the Celtic heavy chariots in the EB descr_model_battle.txt, perhaps its defaulting to the vanilla DMB which has the vanilla texture applied?

EDIT:Never mind, there's nothing about Chariots in that file either. Wonder why CA never bothered to enter them?

[BozosLiveHere]

Anybody thought of asking the Lord of the Rings guys? IIRC they have lots of chariot types in their mod.

[Dol Guldur]

What exactly is the problem? I've posted in the thread at tWC - is that what you wanted to know? (though I'm sure EB would know such a thing regarding chariot, warhound textures etc.)

Dol Guldur / MasterOfNone / Palantir

[Teleklos Archelaou]

We have lost some of our earlier knowledge when dealing with them when one of our members quit and since another one is never around.

[Dol Guldur]

Would you like me to post the relevant text for our war wains, and pm the cas and texture file to someone? Would this help?

[Spendios]

Would you like me to post the relevant text for our war wains, and pm the cas and texture file to someone? Would this help?

If you could pm those infos it would be very helpful. Thanks a lot

[Teleklos Archelaou]

PM or post - whatever would help more people really.

[Dol Guldur]

EDU entry for chariot unit:

type             rhun bodyguard
dictionary       4a_rhun_bodyguard 
category         cavalry
class            heavy
voice_type       Heavy_1
soldier          4a_rhun_bodyguard, 16, 4, 0.7
mount            4amount warwain
mount_effect     4amount mumak -6
attributes       sea_faring, is_peasant,frighten_foot,general_unit,hardy,power_charge , ;no_custom
formation        9, 9, 12, 10, 2,square
stat_health      2, 6
stat_pri         11,20, javelin, 50, 12, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 0, 1
stat_pri_attr    ap,thrown
stat_sec         13,20, no, 0, 0, melee, blade, slashing, none, 0, 0.45
stat_sec_attr    ap,launching, area
stat_pri_armour  11, 6, 0, metal
stat_sec_armour  8, 1, flesh
stat_heat        2
stat_ground      0, -2, -4, 2
stat_mental      23,impetuous,trained
stat_charge_dist 200
stat_fire_delay  100000
stat_food        60, 300
stat_cost        3, 690, 190, 119, 119, 690
ownership        franks

DMB entry for crew:

type			4a_rhun_bodyguard
skeleton		fs_chariot_javelinman
indiv_range		40
texture		franks, 	bi/ci/data/models_unit/textures/4a_rhun_bodyguard.tga
texture		slave, 	bi/ci/data/models_unit/textures/4a_rhun_bodyguard.tga
model_flexi		bi/ci/data/models_unit/4a_rhun_bodyguard_lod1.cas, 15
model_flexi		bi/ci/data/models_unit/4a_rhun_bodyguard_lod1.cas, 30
model_flexi		bi/ci/data/models_unit/4a_rhun_bodyguard_lod1.cas, 40
model_flexi		bi/ci/data/models_unit/4a_rhun_bodyguard_lod1.cas, max
model_sprite	60.0, bi/ci/data/sprites/franks_4a_rhun_bodyguard_sprite.spr
model_tri		400, 0.5f, 0.5f, 0.5f

DMB entry for attached horses:

type					4amount_horsetwin
skeleton				fs_horse
scale					0.875
indiv_range				40
texture		franks,			bi/ci/data/models_unit/textures/4amount_horsetwin.tga
texture		slave,			bi/ci/data/models_unit/textures/4amount_horsetwin.tga
model_flexi				bi/ci/data/models_unit/4amount_horsetwin_lod1.cas, 15
model_flexi				bi/ci/data/models_unit/4amount_horsetwin_lod2.cas, 30
model_flexi				bi/ci/data/models_unit/4amount_horsetwin_lod3.cas, 60
model_flexi				bi/ci/data/models_unit/4amount_horsetwin_lod4.cas, max
model_sprite			franks, 100.0, bi/ci/data/sprites/sprites_new/4amount_horsetwin_sprite.spr
model_sprite			slave, 100.0, bi/ci/data/sprites/sprites_new/4amount_horsetwin_sprite.spr
model_tri				700, 0.3f, 0.3f, 0.3f

DM entry for chariot itself:

type				4amount warwain
class				chariot
radius				6
x_radius			2.5 ;1.5
height				3
mass				4.0 ;10
banner_height		0
bouyancy_offset		0
water_trail_effect	chariot_water_trail
axle_width			2.2 ;1.6
wheel_radius		0.58
pivot_offset		0, 0.325, 0.98
pole_length			2.057
pole_pivot			0, -0.056, -1.419
pole_connect		1.73
harness_connect		1.78
attack_delay		0.2 ;0.25
scythe_radius		1.6 ;0.5
revs_per_attack		1
horse_type			4amount horsetwin
horses				2
horse_offset		-1.0, 2.057
horse_offset		1.0, 2.057
riders				4
rider_offset		0, 	0.17,	0.5
rider_offset		-0.5,	0.17,	-0.4
rider_offset		0.4,	0.17,	-0.2
rider_offset		0,	0.17,	-0.9
lods				3
lod					4amount_warwain_lod1.cas,	50	
lod					4amount_warwain_lod1.cas,	125
lod					4amount_warwain_lod1.cas,	250

DM entry for attached horses:

type				4amount horsetwin
class				horse
model				4amount_horsetwin
radius				1.5
x_radius			0.59 ;0.5
height				2.3 ;2.5
mass				2.95 ;4.5
banner_height		0
bouyancy_offset		1.8
water_trail_effect	horse_water_trail
root_node_height	1.6
rider_offset		0.0, 0.15, 0.0

I hope this helps. The warwain lods can be repathed in the text file but the texture seems to seek out models_unit/textures folder. I am not a modeller but my understanding is that the cas file (as Teleklos will know from such things as vanilla palm-tree models) are keyed to the texture rather than it being designated in a text file.

Borsook corrected the wrong texture of the Scotti Chariots in his RTW-BI Enhancment Pack so that may be an avenue of research (he has it in the pak file I believe) - but a good modeller should be able to tell you how it works.

I'm just a coder ;)