Max No# Units??

**sharrukin** · 02-21-2007, 19:19

Originally Posted by Cambyses II

Perhaps they're not all available in any particular era at once?

Well I transferred the unit list from BKB's mod Prod file over to the Reconquista mod's unit Production file and renamed it EARLY_MODDED_CRUSADERS_UNIT_PROD11.TXT

A simple COPY from the very beginning of the BKB file down to No# 256 Welsh Bandits (inclusive) and PASTE replacing everything in the Reconquista file down to No# 256 Lithuanian Cavalry (inclusive).

I had to remove all references to FN_SWISS and FN_ITALIAN, or it wouldn't load, but after that it loaded and multiple examples of the Emissary showed up so the BKB list is active as well as unit No# 316 which is the second Emissary entry. The Venetians could build the barque as well, which in entry No# 203 they cannot, but they can in entry No# 308, which would seem to indicate that the ships and agents (No# 307 to No# 325) entries from the original Reconquista file are active.

**cegorach** · 02-22-2007, 12:57

Damn me...

I tried it, tested it and it seems that ALL non-combat 'units' ignore the limit.

So basically you can have 256 units + I don't know how many freaking mounts, agents, ships, crusades and jihads.

It seems the only factor what matters to count as one of those 256 units is combat capability on the tactical map...

I must congratulate you this discovery, I really am impressed and it really is something, I can assure you.

Well... it seems that PMTW 2.0 will reach 1000 of units after all...

**The Blind King of Bohemia** · 02-22-2007, 16:32

I can't say that this will incorporated into BKB Super Mod but this will be put into Age of Warlords. I've been very busy with work and real life so i haven't had chance to work on it but it will be finished soon i assure you, hopefully with more units after this great find

**sharrukin** · 02-22-2007, 17:35

Originally Posted by cegorach

Damn me...

I tried it, tested it and it seems that ALL non-combat 'units' ignore the limit.

So basically you can have 256 units + I don't know how many freaking mounts, agents, ships, crusades and jihads.

It seems the only factor what matters to count as one of those 256 units is combat capability on the tactical map...

I must congratulate you this discovery, I really am impressed and it really is something, I can assure you.

Well... it seems that PMTW 2.0 will reach 1000 of units after all...

Well given how many hours of enjoyment I have gotten out of BKB's and other downloaded mod's, if I found something that helps then maybe it counts as partial payback!

I tried adding another unit (cavalry) and it seems to default to militia sergeants.

**cegorach** · 02-22-2007, 18:37

I investigated it even further a moment ago.

So I've placed one of units at the beginning of the crusader, replacing Highland Clansmen and added a new one as 257th unit in the file.

I expected everything, but suprisingly it was all right - the new units used its own icons and animations, so did unit nr. 258 at least I thought so.

I've tried the new unit in the campaign and ... it appeared as possible to produce with its own icon and description so I have recruited one and it appeared as... Highland Clansmen...

I believe that any combat unit after 256 will by default be recruited as the first unit in the original crusader unit file.
I am not really interested to try if I change the first unit in the original file to a different one than the Clansmen I will get it as the new default unit - clearly it has no use anyway [EDIT: writing this post I think I have found one, perhaps quite intriguing...] , except in custom ( maybe MP too ?

) mode so it is good news to such mods, the bad ones are there will be nothing more in the campaign than 256 combat units.

Anyway it is excellent that we have those non-combat slots to explore now.

**naut** · 02-23-2007, 06:24

Excellent news indeed! Will be more useful for my future Chinese mod(s).

Originally Posted by cegorach

I am not really interested to try if I change the first unit in the original file to a different one than the Clansmen I will get it as the new default unit - clearly it has no use anyway [EDIT: writing this post I think I have found one, perhaps quite intriguing...] , except in custom ( maybe MP too ? ) mode so it is good news to such mods, the bad ones are there will be nothing more in the campaign than 256 combat units.

So you mean that all these units appeared as Highland Clansmen in battle but were able to have their own descriptions etc?

**cegorach** · 02-23-2007, 08:35

No were produced as Clansmen, but used different recruitment requirements - buildings, homelands etc.

Unfortunatelly for now I couldn't get anything except the Higland Clansmen, seems to be hardcoded, because I removed their entry from every file I could find except names and descriptions and STILL got them as the result.

I will try something later I discovered it has its uses - you can add different homelands and building requirements for such unit, but for now it is always the bloody Clansmen...

**sharrukin** · 02-23-2007, 08:49

I had two identical units of Vendic Cavalry. Both show up as identical Polish units in the game. However the unit in slot 304 defaulted to a 40-man strong Militia Sergeants (60 is normal) with the picture and description for Militia Sergeants, while the same unit in slot 111 is produced as Vendic Cavalry, just as intended. The Highland Clansmen are the first unit in my file as well.

Moved a ship to slot 307, while deleting the original entry, and it works fine. I suppose this means we can have as many types of ships and agents as we want.

p.s. I made the Militia Sergeant only producible in Wales and the Vendic Cavalry now defaults to a 40-strong unit of Ghazi Infantry. They default to Ghazi Infantry in wales as well.