Medieval II Update 2 Feature List

**pike master** · 02-26-2007, 17:02

what about the vanilla release that you buy at the store. the average joe may only have dial up and not think to download a patch right off.

that sure would hurt sells. they need to make an upgraded game disc and start stamping it out for sell. but then again they are probably waiting to perfect the game and then release the version as a gold edition 8b

**King Bob VI** · 02-26-2007, 21:55

I have dial-up and it doesn't hurt me a bit to download patches, even though they can take a while. What sucks is not being able to download awesome looking mods that are like 100 MB or more.

**Quillan** · 02-26-2007, 22:12

Well, as games have become more complex patches have become the norm. Even aside from the "rush it out the door" mentality there are always bug that slipped through the testing, and I think most gamers know this and look for the patches. Sometimes the patches are too big to conveniently download, though. I saw one recently that was 95 megs in size, and that wasn't one that added new multiplayer maps to the game like some of the Battlefield 2 patches did. It was all bug fixes, anti cheating software, and networking code.

Oh, and FO, in my experience almost nobody reads box copy. I see countless whiny posts every time a game comes out that only certain video cards can run. "Why won't this buggy game work?" Because you don't have a card that supports pixel shaders! "What do you mean?" It says clearly on the box that the game requires a card that supports pixel shaders. "Why do they make a game that requires shaders then and force me to upgrade to play?" It never stops.

**Forward Observer** · 02-26-2007, 22:30

Yeah, Quillan. I knew it was a bit of a stretch when I said that--lol

**JCoyote** · 02-26-2007, 23:58

Originally Posted by King Bob VI

I have dial-up and it doesn't hurt me a bit to download patches, even though they can take a while. What sucks is not being able to download awesome looking mods that are like 100 MB or more.

Might want to find yourself a download manager. Something like Gigaget or whatnot. That way, it can pick up downloads again after you lose connection. A little bit here, a little there, some when your asleep or at work, etc and you'll crank through the large files soon enough. It really helps when you don't have to get all of it in one session. I'm on broadband and I use one, that way if I want to play a game online I don't have to worry about a download sucking my bandwidth I can just pause downloads til I'm done.

**antisocialmunky** · 02-27-2007, 01:07

Just don't stick it on Rapidshare *bleeeerrrr*.

**Forward Observer** · 02-26-2007, 22:10

Originally Posted by mad cat mech

what about the vanilla release that you buy at the store. the average joe may only have dial up and not think to download a patch right off.

that sure would hurt sells. they need to make an upgraded game disc and start stamping it out for sell. but then again they are probably waiting to perfect the game and then release the version as a gold edition 8b

The "average joe" that you describe probably wouldn't know a shield bug from Shinola. He would either play and enjoy the game and that might be it, or he might want to expand his involvement with the game enough that he might eventually end up at a forum like this.

Then in very short order he would find out that he should not be enjoying the game because he didn't know that longbowmen eat Wheaties instead of Cheerios for breakfast.

On the other hand, after playing the game for a few hours, and getting nowhere because he is too illiterate to read the manual, your "average joe" decides that the game sucks and he is going back to really great games like the "Sims" or "Quake".

Daveybaby hit the nail precisely on the head. The only point I might add was that Sega/CA also probably wanted to beat the release of Vista and DX10, since neither their game nor the new operating system were optimized to work with each other.

I also would imagine that all those "average joes" who got a new PC for Christmas and later took advantage of their free upgrade to Vista might think twice about purchasing a game that only lists compatability with WindowsXP/2000 on the box. (that of course assumes that they can and do read box copy)

Cheers