Last edited by Justiciar; 02-23-2007 at 10:51.
When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman? From the beginning all men by nature were created alike, and our bondage or servitude came in by the unjust oppression of naughty men. For if God would have had any bondsmen from the beginning, he would have appointed who should be bound, and who free. And therefore I exhort you to consider that now the time is come, appointed to us by God, in which ye may (if ye will) cast off the yoke of bondage, and recover liberty. - John Ball
For many many years we have observed primates picking and trimming sticks to delve for ants and termites.
BTW I've worked with Jill Pruetz. Another great anthropologist, more of an archaeologist in that department at ISU is Dr. Hill. I remember long nights washing bones in the lab following an unfortunate increase in air moisture. lol
There is something magical about cutting recently deceased cows and bison with stone tools in a variety of conditions to understand cut marks found on remains.
Last edited by ShadeHonestus; 02-23-2007 at 06:24.
"There is a true glory and a true honor; the glory in duty done and the honor in the integrity of principle."
"The truth is this; the march of Providence so long, that of the individual so brief, that we often only see the ebb of the advancing wave. It is history which teaches us to hope."
Yes, I know. But the spear was always considered the weapon which gave our ancestors the ability to fend off predators and kill large game. It is telling that the weaker members of this chimpanzee culture are using this prothesis. And the sometimes rather lenghty preperation of this weapons caught my eyes:For many many years we have observed primates picking and trimming sticks to delve for ants and termites.
In all but one of the cases, chimps broke off a living branch to make their tool. They would then trim the side branches and leaves.
In a number of cases, chimps also trimmed the ends of the branch and stripped it of bark. Some chimps also sharpened the tip of the tool with their teeth.
Sounds like fun. Do you also stab or throw with spears with various spearheads?There is something magical about cutting recently deceased cows and bison with stone tools in a variety of conditions to understand cut marks found on remains.
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Last edited by Oleander Ardens; 02-24-2007 at 21:00.
Cicero, Pro Milone"Silent enim leges inter arma - For among arms, the laws fall mute"
Here's something funny:
My brother and I were watching this on the news, and I asked him if he'd take on a spear-wielding chimp. He said "No way, they might outsmart me."
1 small step back for man, 1 giant leap forward for chimps?![]()
So will chimp historians one day debate whether their ancestors used the overhand or underhand stab style like we do when ever someone mentions Hoplites or Persians.
Perhaps if one of the chimps starts to specialize in making certain parts of the spear or if they start practicing stabs and such we should watch out.
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