TroG OOC-Thread

[Kavhan Isbul]

The fine thing about the internet is that everbody can do their thing whenever they have time; don't sweat it. I usually check the threads in a few minutes every day, anyway.

As for the building queue, is that because there's no keep yet? (Corsica; trade post)

If so, I'd like a keep ^^

There are no trading good in Corsica, so I do not think you can build a trading post even if you have a keep.

[Wasp]

There are no trading good in Corsica, so I do not think you can build a trading post even if you have a keep.

Oh, a shame! I always had the description of Corsica in my head (the one from the facts thread; mostly trading). I'll just need to focus on agriculture, then.

[Warluster]

Could I sing up for this PBeM? I won't be able to do battles and such,, so can i join?

[Kavhan Isbul]

Sure, I do not think we have a limit on players.

[naut]

Oh, a shame! I always had the description of Corsica in my head (the one from the facts thread; mostly trading). I'll just need to focus on agriculture, then.

There is salt as a mining resource IIRC.

[Wasp]

There is salt as a mining resource IIRC.

Oh, that'd be nice. I really have to check, next time I have the chance. I'll try tomorrow.

[Edit] I checked, and Corsica has salt, a Watch Tower, Fort and Port.

[Warmaster Horus]

So, just so this doesn't die out, where do we stand?

[Innocentius]

I'm waiting for Wasp to post/send his build/recruit que (including details about the Spearmen, when they are to be delivered etc).

Also, I think it's time we solve the Consul-problem. I'll PM UltraWar right now, and if he does not reply within 24 hours confirming that he is still interested in the game we must elect a new Consul (OOC-vote).

[Kavhan Isbul]

I can help you with the spearmen part - they are to be delivered to Tuscany on Turn 1. Here's the deal - with very high taxes, no governor (we do not have suitable heroes for governors yet) and no improvements, Corsica can generate the mindboggling income of eighty something florints per year. There are 100 spearmen and 60 UM there, whose upkeep is 80 florints. If the Corsicans pay their taxes of 8 or so florints, they will actually be upside down - not a good thing. Therefore I think Wasp will confirm, but the 100 spearmen are to be transferred to Tuscany on Turn 1, in exchange for 50 florints.

In that case here are a few minor changes to my schedule:

Year 1: increase taxes to high; build watch towers
Year 2: increase taxes to very high, start town watch
Year 3: finish town watch
Year 4: start 20% improved farmland; train a unit of Urban Militia
Year 5: finish farmland; do not train anything

Here is a question: is the 10% tax based on a province's income (regardless of expenses), or based on the province's profit for the year (income minus expenses)?

I will page Wasp, I am sure he will send you his schedule soon.

[Wasp]

My apologies, I thought the former queue would be sufficient.

Kavhan is right about the spearmen, they leave Corsica first boat they get (that is, as soon as Kavhan hands those 50 florints!)

My taxes should be as high as possible, unless there's a event preventing that or the loyalty will get below 100%.

Then there's my new building list:

Year 1: start building a border fort
Year 2: finish building fort, start on Improved Farmland (20%)
Year 3: finish Improved Farmland (20%)
Year 4: start building a salt mine (I think that one takes four years?)
Year 5: still building

I hope that's sufficient?

[Kavhan Isbul]

I guess we can start and play the first 5 turns then. No battles, so the Consul issue is not that pressing in my opinion.
If UltraWar is unable to participate and be the Consul, I suggest Warmaster Horus as Consul - he was going to be the next Consul anyway. The main requirement for the Consul is to be able to have XL installed, so that he can load a saved XL campaign and fight a battle.

[Wasp]

I guess we can start and play the first 5 turns then. No battles, so the Consul issue is not that pressing in my opinion.
If UltraWar is unable to participate and be the Consul, I suggest Warmaster Horus as Consul - he was going to be the next Consul anyway. The main requirement for the Consul is to be able to have XL installed, so that he can load a saved XL campaign and fight a battle.

Indeed, and since the parliament has granted the Chancellor some 'emergency powers' anyway, there's no reason to delay it any further.

[naut]

Year 4: start building a salt mine (I think that one takes four years?)
Year 5: still building

In XL the Salt Mine is two years IIRC.

[Kavhan Isbul]

The salt mine takes two years. Its upgrade, the salt mine copmplex, takes 4.

[gunslinger]

I'm glad we're still going to give this thing a try. I was under the impression that we had decided in the parliament thread to give the Chancellor Consul powers when the Consul was unavailable. If we're going to elect a new Consul, then I guess UltraWar will have to die of his sickness. Either way, let's get moving forward!

[Wasp]

The salt mine takes two years. Its upgrade, the salt mine copmplex, takes 4.

In XL the Salt Mine is two years IIRC.

Ah, thanks. Doesn't change anything for this schedule, then, and I can start the next schedule 'fresh'.

[Warmaster Horus]

Same as Gunslinger.
I thought that the Chancellor would take the place of Consul, until the heir comes of age or something.

[Kavhan Isbul]

Also, I think it's time we solve the Consul-problem. I'll PM UltraWar right now, and if he does not reply within 24 hours confirming that he is still interested in the game we must elect a new Consul (OOC-vote).

It has been over 48 hours now. Any news from UltraWar?

[Innocentius]

It has been over 48 hours now. Any news from UltraWar?

Nope, nothing. Instead of starting a new thread we might just vote right here. I cast my vote for Warmaster Horus as he'd become the next Consul anyway.

Sorry that I too have been a bit off. I have more than enough schoolwork to deal with (and other stuff as well of course).

[Wasp]

I agree on Warmaster Horus. The consul is dead, long live the consul?

[Kavhan Isbul]

Another vote for Warmaster Horus.

[Warmaster Horus]

I'd accept if you were all in favour.
Anything to get it actually started.

[Wasp]

I'd accept if you were all in favour.
Anything to get it actually started.

Agreed. I think we're waiting for the Chancellor then?

[Innocentius]

waiting for the Chancellor

Kavhan PM'd me about this, and I know things are going slow. Way too slow. Like I stated earlier I signed up as Chancellor believeing that we'd finish the reign of the first Consul within a week or so (my holididays) and then I'd sign up as a less important player for the second round. Turns out we didn't get nearly as far as I thought and I haven't even had access to the computer where I can run MTW for a few days now.

Kavhan Isbul suggested that he could play the Chancellor for the first round (1.1), which is a good idea. I'm actually considering whether I should remain Chancellor at all since I feel I've slowed the process down too much already. If you - for some unknown reason - would still like me to remain Chancellor I can't guarantee you that the game will progress at all in the future two weeks or so. Otherwise I suggest a new Chancellor is determined.

Sorry

[Kavhan Isbul]

An important player getting suddenly busy was a forseeable thing - it can and probably will happen to all of us.
If you decide that we cannot wait for Innocentius a few more weeks, I volunteer to be the Chancellor.

[naut]

It's all fine by me whatever happens.

[Wasp]

If you don't feel bad about it, Innocentius, I think it would be good if Kavhan did some Chancellor duties. I do hope you'll become it again somewhere in the future, though

[Martok]

If Kavhan Isbul is willing to be Chancellor, I'm down with it (provided gunslinger is as well).

[Warmaster Horus]

No problem.

[Kavhan Isbul]

OK, I have a confirmation from Gunslinger of Cagliari and I know what he wants built. With no further delay I will start the game tonight, and I will post a chancellor's report tomorrow in the appropriate thread. I will make the decisions for Genoa this five turns, until Prince Gregorio matures, and then he will take over governing Genoa and taking all the strategic decisions as a Consul.
Rythmic will now take over Tuscany.