Okay I watched chatting with charley. I guess he is proof of his contention of the second law of thermal dynamics…things move from complex to simple…I think he might be a bit simple minded…

I think what we have is a lot of people when confronted by things they don't like, who are creating their own reality…

Let them play in their world for a while until they are ready to come see what things are like out here. Things you try to avoid have a way of not being ignored any way.