Romanian Factions Requierd

[edyzmedieval]

Try to read more before you make assumptions. What about Vlad Tepes? Mihai the Brave(Mihai Viteazul)? Remember?

[hgtm]

And stefan the great...

[Ultras DVSC]

Yeah, Stefan the Great was indeed a great ruler of Moldova in the middle of the 15th century. He managed to preserve the independence of his land from the Ottomans by paying annual taxes, but did not really care about Vienna.

Ah, the favourite Vlad Tepes. He was only 17 when attacked his own land (Wallachia) as the head of lent Turkish army... On the throne of Wallachia he managed to massacre some smaller Ottoman outpost, than to avoid the direct conflict with the army of Mehmed II but after that he was expelled by his own brother, Radu, who attacked Vlad also with a huge Turkish army. In the end in the jail of King Matthew he could only impale rats and insects...

Mihai the brave hustled at the end of the 16th century. Buda had been taken by the Ottomans so they were essentially stationing in front of the gates of Vienna. As the ruler of Wallachia, Mihai was a vassal of Zsigmond Bathory (prince of Transylvania), and their united army defeated some Ottoman troops at the Battle of Giurgevo. After that as far is i know Mihai mainly dealt with his personal affairs, rather than fighting against the Muslim oppressors...

The Ottoman forces tried to attack Vienna several times, but they were never able to seize her. The last and maybe the biggest effort took place in 1683 afaik, called the Battle of Vienna. The defenders consisted of Austrian, Bohemian and German soldiers, while the Ottomans had an army of about 100000 warrior including 15-20000 soldier of Moldova and Wallachia...

[Vazul's Ghost]

Indeed, however Stefan the Great is way after the time at which MTR ends. Zsigmond Bathory was a transylvanian prince and commanded many victories, there is one problem however with that. He was a HUNGARIAN prince of Transylvania. He and his subjects were magyars in every sense of the world. Transylvania has been part of Hungary for hundreds and hundreds of years, until the end of WW1. The seckler people populated and still partially populate that region, and were considered more Hungarian then any citizen of Esztergom by many, as they spoke a more archaic hungarian dialect. Including Transylvania as a faction is like including... i don't know, too many examples of pointless princedoms are flying through my head to pinpoint one.
...Anyway, how could anyone forget Vlad Tepes, however his exploits although memorable, only relate to Wallachia and on a lesser extent Hungary and Turkey on the broad scale of things. Indeed, he did take Wallachia from the puppet Hungarian king, however all his actions after that only really influenced the power of Wallachia, and on a minor scale Turkey and Hungary. Truly he and other warlords were great men, but when you look at all of Europe they only had the level of influence comparable to that of a rebel. They did not take much, if any land, except from other Romanian Feudal lords, and did not influence the progression of society, culture, religion or technology as was the reasoning behind CAs decision to include Milan.
On the topic of taking land, indeed the HRE etc did not gain much territory that they hadn't already lost, however they still controlled far more land then that of any Romanian, and certainly had greater military power.
It is for these reasons that i am adament that Wallachia, Moldova, or Transylvania be included as a faction. I believe that they should be represented as rebels and mercenaries, with perhaps some more unique units (like the Bulgarian Brigands for Bulgaria). This is not only historically correct, but bslsncing on the sense of gameplay, as there are already many factions for Hungary to deal with in the Mod such as Cumania and the Rus. Perhaps the inclusuion of Vlad as a very powerful rebel general in the game, but certainly not a faction of itself, that should be left for area specific mods made by people like Arbaces are making.

[Vazul's Ghost]

Damn, mistype . When i said Stefan the Great I meant Mihai the Brave, however, Stefan the Grea tis also towards the very end of the Medieval Total Realism Mod, and thus should also be taken out of consideration.

[Russ Mitchell]

Problem being...

a: Bulgarian Brigands are actually a good model for most light infantry in this region for a long time, particularly the Szekely...

b: ANYTHING that distracts from the Cumans will prevent them from coming down and kicking the crap out of the Crusaders in 1205....

[Kavhan Isbul]

Problem being...

b: ANYTHING that distracts from the Cumans will prevent them from coming down and kicking the crap out of the Crusaders in 1205....

...which they never did anyway, for the Crusaders clashed with the army of the Bulgarian Tsar Kaloyan.