Granary - second upgrade

**Praxil** · 03-01-2007, 17:09

I already asked this in TWC but so far didn't got answer I was looking for.

This question is firstly for EB Team of course.

Code:

    grain_silo
    }
    }
    grain_silo requires factions { all, }
    {
        capability
        {
        population_growth_bonus bonus 2
        happiness_bonus bonus 1
        trade_base_income_bonus bonus -1
        }
    construction 8
    cost 6400

What is the reason or explanation for income penalty?

Of course I can edit it to whatever I like but... I don't get the logic of the penalty.

**blacksnail** · 03-01-2007, 17:18

Originally Posted by Praxil

Of course I can edit it to whatever I like but... I don't get the logic of the penalty.

My immediate assumption is that it is because you are diverting grain you would otherwise export and sell, which means you lose out on potential profit. Unfortunately it looks like a bonus in the game, which is an engine-based falsehood due to the way that Trade Base Income works. That's pretty lame.

Bonuses and such are getting a hard look for the next version. We hope to make them consistent across all buildings and not have penalties reported as bonuses.

**Praxil** · 03-01-2007, 19:28

Originally Posted by blacksnail

My immediate assumption is that it is because you are diverting grain you would otherwise export and sell, which means you lose out on potential profit.

Right, I just see historical effect of Granaries a bit differently than EB Team. In the end It's all good.

**Danest** · 03-01-2007, 19:30

Crap, the granaries are taking away from my income? All these years, after building markets and ports,etc. and looking for a way to make more money... and I've been putting in granaries that are accomplishing the opposite? Argh! Man that's a serious (well, annoying, at least) oversight by CA to not have made that more clear in vanilla.

**Empty** · 03-01-2007, 19:51

Crap, the granaries are taking away from my income? All these years, after building markets and ports,etc. and looking for a way to make more money... and I've been putting in granaries that are accomplishing the opposite?

Hell yeah, a nasty surprise.

**blacksnail** · 03-01-2007, 21:15

Yeah, that was just my guess - I'm not sure about the history of it. But that would seem to be the most logical explanation.

**Danest** · 03-01-2007, 23:02

I'm no programmer, but how long would that have taken CA to stick that into their last patch? What, an extra 10 minutes? I've been quiet about all their other bugs, but this one really...uh... bugs me. :p

**blacksnail** · 03-02-2007, 05:05

They did not do any negative values in Vanilla, nor was the program really set up to handle/display negatives, so it makes sense why it would happen that way.

**MarcusAureliusAntoninus** · 03-02-2007, 05:21

Considering vanilla didn't use negative values, modders are lucky that they work at all. Cudos to CA for making it mostly work even though they themselves didn't really need it to.