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    http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...src=rss&rpc=22

    Interesting. I wonder how much polution has been caused by Mr Gore or his fanbase while they've been flying around in their private jets promoting their "science".

    Well Orgahs, what do you think? We can discuss the hypocricy of the "do as I say not as I do" Gore-environazi crowd or you may be of the "we're all going to die in a atmospheric oven" crowd? Personally, I liked how 30 years ago the same folks were ready to start buying igloo tralier park lots in Florida.
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    Default Re: Inconvenient "Truth" wins Oscar, Al Gore gains 3 pants sizes...

    When the "little ice age"(which lasted for ca. 500ish years) set its sights on Europe 700 years ago, the authority of the day first said that the devil was in the Alpine glaciers and did a bumper business in blessings and casting outs, then years later the pope declared that witches were responsible and over 50,000 people were burned at the stake for this one offense.

    Of course it turned out to be a number of things with the coldest period due to a temporary cool down in the sun via less sunspots.

    If the 'authority' of the day had the ability to make movies I'm sure they would have made a 'documentary' stating the truth about devils and witches. Later on I'm sure the agency for medieval films, funded by like minded political activist would have given them awards for it.


    So in summation political propaganda and documentary can and often do mean the same thing.





    P.S. Those ice core samples Gore puts so much stock in as to their power to tell the entire worlds climatic history....can only be dated back 115,000 years. 115,000 years is a crap sample for stating authority on 4.5 billion years.
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    Why is does Northern Europe have such a good climate, compared to Canada which is at the same latitude?
    We have a good gulfstream.
    What will happen to that gulfstream if the ice melts?
    It will disappear.
    What consequences does that have?
    It gets colder.
    How much?
    Well you can call it an ice age, as it will be the Younger Dryas all over again.

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    Global Warming=Hotter Summers=Hot Babes in skimpier out fits It's all good no need to worry But in all seriousness, they say it won't really affect us, but it will nail our grandchildren pretty hard, so I'll go to say that I think it is true and all and that we should attempt to decrease it's potential some what so that at least we can say we tried instead of think what we should HAVE done, because I don't think that we can stop it but that at least we can tone down(hopefully) it's potential to cause serious problems. That my opinion anyways.
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    Well to be honest by the time it will affect us we will probably already be dead from something else. Sure we might cause a "mass extinction" but I think it is better to die from our own doing than by some rock in space that just happens to hit our planet. I live in Maine, in the US, and we usually don't have the warmest weather. For once in the history of the country it would be nice to be in the ideal cliamte and the best place to live. I can see it now, all those people who move to Florida will "Fry in the oven of GLOBAL WARMING" and I can say "haha told you so, you should of stayed in Maine".

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    There's a nice irony that countries which will be worse screwed over by global warming (man made or not) are the poorest, and therefore least polluting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stig
    Why is does Northern Europe have such a good climate, compared to Canada which is at the same latitude?
    We have a good gulfstream.
    What will happen to that gulfstream if the ice melts?
    It will disappear.
    What consequences does that have?
    It gets colder.
    How much?
    Well you can call it an ice age, as it will be the Younger Dryas all over again.
    It's been said that the effects of the "conveyor" have been much over-stated.

    Here's an article from the "American Scientist" for your enjoyment.

    The Source of Europe's Mild Climate: The notion that the Gulf Stream is responsible for keeping Europe anomalously warm turns out to be a myth


    The Gulf Stream indeed contributes to Europe's warmth, but it is wrong to conflate the climate difference across the North Atlantic with the northward flow of warm water in the Gulf Stream. This erroneous logic leads to such statements as (from The Times of London): "The British Isles lie on the same latitude as Labrador on the East Coast of Canada, and are protected from a similarly icy climate by the Atlantic conveyor belt." Such claims are absolutely wrong.
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    Want to know an "Inconvenient Truth"?
    I had to get up and shovel 24 inches of snow this morning to go to school and it's still coming down!

    Bad day for mr. Al Gore!
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    It was a really really bad film, and a yet to be proven theory -->

    (i like the title)

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    @Xiahou, they're not wrong, as the same caused the Younger Dryas. Cold water (from some St. Something river in Canada, Lawrence wasn't it?) came in the gulfstream. This repressing this. This caused the Ice Age in the Younger Dryas, ofcourse we won't get ice all over Holland, but the temperature will drop 10 degrees in 20 years. As it did before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuk
    Want to know an "Inconvenient Truth"?
    I had to get up and shovel 24 inches of snow this morning to go to school and it's still coming down!

    Bad day for mr. Al Gore!
    OMG it was cold outside! GLOBAL WARMING ISN'T REAL!
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    It's been said that the effects of the "conveyor" have been much over-stated.

    Here's an article from the "American Scientist" for your enjoyment.
    So its more of a combined conveyor and elevator system .

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    Well, I just have to say that the reason many people dismiss global warming is because of the people who claim it's happening; Their "holier than thou" attitude leads many to disagree with them on principle because these environmentalists are so smug all the time that you just want to prove them wrong no matter what just to have them swallow their words and accept a defeat. If we could somehow make care for the environment seem as a natural thing and not as some freak cause fronted by arrogant twerps we would probably not have to worry about the Netherlands sinking.
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    I bet Al Gore is gonna run for prezEdunt.
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    Default Re: Inconvenient "Truth" wins Oscar, Al Gore gains 3 pants sizes...

    You all live on big continents, and therefore have ridiculously hot summers and cold winters. Cunning people live on small islands in temperate zones, and just get rained on a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDC
    You all live on big continents, and therefore have ridiculously hot summers and cold winters. Cunning people live on small islands in temperate zones, and just get rained on a lot.
    Or Tsunami'd.
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    I agree with Decker.

    Global Warming=Hotter Summers=Hot Babes in skimpier out fits
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    Default Re: Inconvenient "Truth" wins Oscar, Al Gore gains 3 pants sizes...

    A little more Inconveniant "Truth" about Al Gore's ability to talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    A little more Inconveniant "Truth" about Al Gore's ability to talk the talk, but not walk the walk.
    http://www.drudgereport.com/flash.htm
    And thus, Global Warming is false

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    And thus, Global Warming is false
    Maybe but maybe not, but if I was so concerned, I would limit my jet fuel and home consumption of energy. I know that's hard for a liberal to understand, but sometimes you need to take action besides making speeches and whining.
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    Al Gore has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. Let us not forget that he is a politican,and politicians aren't the most honest people around...Also, back when Al Gore ran for president he said he wanted to drain lake powell, which helps provide hydroelectric power for the western U.S.
    In any given year, the hydroelectric energy produce by the Glen Canyon Dam precludes the release of over 10 million pounds of carbon dioxide from entering the atmosphere. Multiply this by 40 years and you're talking about 400,000,000,000 (400 billion pounds of CO2).
    I found that here

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    I know that's hard for a politician to understand, but sometimes you need to take action besides making speeches and whining.
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    Lignator, that 10 million pound per year may sound alot, but the world releases 24 trillion metric tons (2000 pounds) of CO2 a year. The US releases 5.8 trillion metric tons amounting to about 16 million metric tons a day or 32 billion pounds a day. The dam only releases 10 million pounds a year which is just 0.031% of US release in a single day. You have to put things in perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
    Maybe but maybe not, but if I was so concerned, I would limit my jet fuel and home consumption of energy. I know that's hard for a liberal to understand, but sometimes you need to take action besides making speeches and whining.
    Maybe he's in it for the money.
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    One thing that has been discussed that seems to hit the US were it hurts(supposedly) nowadays is that we are short-sighted. I'm not trying to smash on anyone I'm just saying that either governmentally(not attempting to be political just making an example/point), medially, and even down to the citizen, we always tend to think about now and not about something that could nip us in the bud later on in our lives. It is like at school when the cute girls are not prepare for cold weather and they end up asking you for you jacket because they are cold, and you are in a delimma because it's cold as h3ll and you need your jacket but then you wanna look good in front of them. It is these kinds of things that cause major problems, whether on a personal or global basis that can cause societies to collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xdeathfire
    Lignator, that 10 million pound per year may sound alot, but the world releases 24 trillion metric tons (2000 pounds) of CO2 a year. The US releases 5.8 trillion metric tons amounting to about 16 million metric tons a day or 32 billion pounds a day. The dam only releases 10 million pounds a year which is just 0.031% of US release in a single day. You have to put things in perspective.
    Yea, but every bit counts, right? Anyways I was just trying to point out how much of a hypocrite I believe Al Gore to be.

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    The dam however is far more efficient than any coal plant would be. It would probably be able to produce at least ten times the electricty at half of the co2 emissions.

    Also, it releases less than 0.03 percent of us daily emissions in a whole year which is not much
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadeHonestus
    Or Tsunami'd.
    Not in the UK. Ireland even absorbs the worst of the rain.

    God likes Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scurvy
    It was a really really bad film, and a yet to be proven theory
    Let's cover this one more time for the people who are sleeping in the back of the class: It is not a characteristic of a scientific theory to be provable. Proofs are for math. The characteristics of a scientific theory are falsifiability, refutability, or testability. In other words, can it be proved wrong, and can it be repeated.

    As for fat jokes, I reserve them for people who make fun of other people's appearances. Just a little application of the Golden Rule (which is not a theory, just in case you're wondering).

    Nobody who believes the world is more than 7,000 years old denies that the Earth experiences climate change. And nobody with an intact brain denies that we're in an interglacial period, with a likelihood of warming trends. I know people love to use "global warming" as a shorthand, but it's sloppy and misleading.

    Gore & Co.'s assertion that manmade chemicals are contributing to the warming trend is difficult to support, 'cause it ain't disprovable, and it ain't repeatable. So I don't think it qualifies as a theory.

    That said, I find people such as DevDave and Xiahou who declare that it's bunk and they just know it because they're such experts on climatology just as quixotic as Gore, if not more so. How anyone can declare anything with certainty on this subject is beyond my tiny lemur brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur

    That said, I find people such as DevDave and Xiahou who declare that it's bunk and they just know it because they're such experts on climatology just as quixotic as Gore, if not more so. How anyone can declare anything with certainty on this subject is beyond my tiny lemur brain.
    Could you please quote me where I said "that it's bunk and they just know it because they're such experts on climatology". Thank you...

    By the way, my energy bill is about 1/20 of Al . I even have enviro friendly light bulbs and recycle all my class, alluminum, and plastic. I wonder how much of that is done at the household?
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