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    okay okay i know this gives it away
    but i must ask because already i have seen...
    Marcus T. C_____ in EB

    (i dont want to give it away)

    but is Caesar, Pompey, Crassus or Sulla, or Marius or kato
    or any of the famous characters in EB?
    (i havnt got to around 50BC yet)

    please tell me Caesar is in it!!

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    If they are alive when the game starts, yes they are in it. Which means a big no to all of those but Cato.
    I shouldn't have to live in a world where all the good points are horrible ones.

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    uh.. i dont quite understand what you mean

    the cicero family
    well Tullius
    was only in there because they were adopted
    clearly they would have put some famous people in
    not just a randomly generated? family tree
    i dont know, thats why i asked the question
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    Default Re: Historical Characters, just some q's

    Quote Originally Posted by Will_YouFight_ForME
    uh.. i dont quite understand what you mean

    the cicero family
    well Tullius
    was only in there because they were adopted
    clearly they would have put some famous people in
    not just a randomly generated? family tree
    i dont know, thats why i asked the question
    We do not spawn historical characters into the game unless they were alive in 272. MTC is just a random name that appears, but we certainly do not spawn any famous characters, that would be against what we are trying to do, recreating history, not copying it.

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    For generals, that is. People who were not really characters we do give out as ancillaries. Philosophers, rhetoricians, etc. We think of that as a way to educate folks and I doubt we would ever think seriously about dumping them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teleklos Archelaou
    For generals, that is. People who were not really characters we do give out as ancillaries. Philosophers, rhetoricians, etc. We think of that as a way to educate folks and I doubt we would ever think seriously about dumping them.
    I hope not, the bonuses Archimedes has been giving to Hamalcar have been great, I'd hate not to get him in the next versions.
    I shouldn't have to live in a world where all the good points are horrible ones.

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    So I wonder, if the real MTC as included as an acilery, would it be viable for him to decrease corruption? That would be cool.

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    i wanted to ask about a thing on Carthage: At the start of the game, I have the general Hamalcar which has a son named Hamalcar , why is it not Hanibal?

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    Because Hannibal is -25 years old at the start of the game.
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    And tell the Deep-Sea Viceroys the story of our woe;
    Ere, empty as the shark's egg the tempest flings ashore,
    The Beaches of Lukannon shall know their sons no more!

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    so what you are saying is, you can only change the main starting characters?
    could it not be possible to adopt a certain character when they are born in history?

    you say its all about education and having some one like Hannibal and many of the other characters is not needed, you say its not what you're trying to do

    lol
    surely you must to educate people who do not know what these people did
    Hannibals victories against the romans are still regarded as some of the greatest in history

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    you clearly know this


    i dont want to ruffle any feathers in the EB high command

    but adding the famous characters would bring alot of joy and education to many people! :D
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    It's no big deal, but we have made the decision that we will not "script" historical generals' appearance. Just a choice we have made.

    One thing about names some folks don't realize - we can't have two characters have the same name in descr_strat.txt (i.e., at the game's start), so you will notice Theodotos and Diodotos (a father and son) for Baktria. They really share the same name, but these are two alternative renderings of that name, so we cheat and get around the problem that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ower
    i wanted to ask about a thing on Carthage: At the start of the game, I have the general Hamalcar which has a son named Hamalcar , why is it not Hanibal?
    Do people read the biography trait of every character at the start of the game? Your new Hamalcar is the Barcid one, the other one is an older Hamalcar.

    The thing I asked was to give Hamalcar Barca a bonus to make him super fertile and that he can marries fast so we at least (with good luck) can represent his 4 sons and 2 daughters.

    Thanks =)

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    I read the biographys, in 0.8 but they were the same, and both had the same name : Hamalcar (stationed in Sicily) and his not jet adult son was Hamalcar as well. The biography was the same after the second came of age, that was what confused me. (don't mind the wrong speling).

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    i found the biographies fascinating

    shame about the family tree though =[


    thanks people!!
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    I find myself wishing I could change the names of certain characters, every once in a while, or even just assign them a title like "the lunatic". ;)

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    Is the Romani tendancy to produce daughters an intentional way of showing Republican politics rather than a royal family? (i.e. most new generals are married in)

    Three times now I've been upset by the Scipiones leaving no male heirs. Now history is being written by many, many Cottas.

    Not a complaint, it's a good way of doing things. Is there a way of making some names more likely? I'd prefer the usual run of Gaius, Cnaeus, Secundus etc and a healthy representation by major Roman families if I can get them.

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    would it be possible to edit in some characters?

    hmm?

    "Rationality was the best thing to come from Greece, but its a shame men don't know how to use it!"

    "A brave man has to be blind before he can see"

    "aristocrats shout Republic Republic, Republic. brave men shout, Revolution Revolution Revolution"©
    Jason Brown

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