strange roman ctd

[Obelics]

hallo, im having some strange roman ctds. They occurs from what i noticed, when i get an heroic victory, and i noticed that the probability of the ctd is highter when the general who fight is a great general. It's just a supposition, but the two generals that causes me ctd's were in odour of triunph, the first one was a conqueror of gallie, had 10 comstars, and was a legendary hero, strategic expert, tactical expert etc., but after a while i had to avoid to have eroic victory with him. Now he's dead of age. The second general has 8/9 cstars, is conqueror of chartage, gallic vanquisher, so he was waiting too for triumph, but as i get an huge victory in pallantia (hiberia) against a full stack of silver scevroned iberian rebels, i get an heroic victory. As i press the button to return to the campaign map, the game crashes. Isn't it somethink related with a new trait gained by the 2 generals after that Hvictory? pheraphs a imperator trait?
But now the strange fact: i reload the game (im saving it every turn) and replay the battle, and there is no CTD anymore. But the general gain no trait, nothing, as they hadn't fought the battle. That's really strange. And even more strange that i cant reproduce the ctd, cause when i restart from the save i have not ctd. Strange that doing so (replay battle from a savegame after the ctd) it seems that the Hvictory dont count anymore, do not gain any trait, and my general are dying of age, with all the traits at maximum, but never become imperator. (i repeat those are just my suppositions...)
Another strange ctd is when i was attaking Mastia in iberia with my first uber general (the legendary hero, and i get an heroic victory, and this time the ctd occurred after i choosed to exterminate the population (this occurred even when i replayied it from a save). I had to choose to enslave the population to avoid the ctd (but im not sure this was the cause, infact this time i had not an heroic victory).

I dont know if the save game can be of some use, cause as i sayd the most part of the ctds, seems to disappear when i replay from a savegame. Anyway it is quite frustrating.

i dont know if this post can be of some help. I cant even imagine a cause for this ctds, i just tryied to make some suppositions.
Anyway i have a 0.81 on a 0.80 patch, i deleted the rwm after the installation.

Do you think i should reinstall the whole think with a full 0.81 installation?


Thanks

PS i never had some towns to rebel, from what i recall.
PPS i can continue the campaign anyway, but i cant do not think on the fact that those strange ctd occurs on very good generals waiting for imperator... (with others generals i have not ctds)

[bovi]

You may try to install the full 0.81 if you think it will make a difference, but I don't.

Your CTDs sound unlike any I know so far. Please do post your savegame, preferably a handful (but not all of them, because of size). While bugs that don't repeat are very elusive, having your savegames is better for tracking them down than nothing. Thank you for your report!

[Obelics]

hi bovi, ive sent you a private message with the link to the savegame. You have to attack pallantia and eventyally have an heroic victory, but as i sayd, when i restart from a savegame the probability to reproduce the CTD is minimum.

Salut and thanks!

PS as you can see from my save game there is the town of numantia near pallantia that has a red face with fire, the only time i get a sort of unrest, but the ctd didn't occur when i press end-turn, it occurs just after have conquered pallantia with heroic victory in this turn.

[Tellos Athenaios]

Usually the CTD happens once a faction completes its turn; that is when rebellions are calculated. Likely the Sweboz are not the culprits, but rather the faction before them, so you should probably check out those guys' settlements as well.

In which case it still could be due to the "red faces". Try this.

Oh, and don't forget to thank fallen851 for enabeling it with 0.8.1 and MarcusAureliusAntoninus for creating it in the first place.

[bovi]

Tellos, these are not the rebellions. He says it happens when he completes a battle. It may be a remnant of the reinforcement CTD, or something else entirely. The quote you picked was in another thread.

[Obelics]

just to report: i replayied as usually the battle for Pallantia from the savegame (the same i sent you) and i got an heroic victory again, and as expected this time no Ctd, and as usually the general gain no trait as if the battle wasn't fought. (never in my game got a good trait after a savegame, except the "re-supply trait"... strange)

@Tellos thanks for the help, but that only town of Numantia with the "red and fire" face will get a blue face next turn and a yellow the further one. (there was a temple in way of completing, i never experienced a rebellion bug). Thanks anyway.

PS anyway just to say this is not destroying my EB life, enjoy the game as usually, i can live with generals who can only achivie a "conqueor of somethink" trait, it was just to report it and for the fact that i cannot do not think to the fact that the bug could be related with traits gained after a battle, especially heroic victorys, and with generals that have already some traits to the max. But im not expert and i could be wrong.

salut!

[Kull]

just to report: i replayied as usually the battle for Pallantia from the savegame (the same i sent you) and i got an heroic victory again, and as expected this time no Ctd, and as usually the general gain no trait as if the battle wasn't fought. (never in my game got a good trait after a savegame, except the "re-supply trait"... strange)

This may sound dumb, but I do it all the time, and get the same result: For some reason there is a CTD and I reload the game and refight the battle and get no traits. Why? Because I forgot to load the script before starting the battle. Now if you are religiously starting the script immediately and STILL getting these results, then we might have an issue. Otherwise, that's your answer.

[Obelics]

well, im so used to EB, that I click on a town every time i start or reload a game, even if i play vanilla rtw or a mod that has not a 4tpery script, it is become a sort of nervous tick. So im sure 100% on this. Anyway another answer could be that those general didn't deserve a new trait? pheraphs even if the battle didnt ctd, he would not gain a new trait... btw my "feel" (but im not expert of the game inner mechanichs inherent the scripts and the traits) is that those ctds could be related with some trait gained... but it's just some supposition from me.

Anyway as i sayd those ctd tend to occur on good generals, with Heroic victories.
The last one i had was with a new general im training, who is dubbed "germanicus" (and is conqueror of germania and has 3 CStars) this ctd occurred on a minor battle on a bridge, i was attacking and the rebels were defending at the other side of the bridge.

This ctds are "rare" anyway, and i fear a ctd only when im commanding a good-developing general, and with a probably heroic victory.

PS:
Regarding the traits, if you conquer Siracusa, did you get a trait? Because i had a CTD there at the early stage of my campaign, with my first good general (who's dead of age now), and i reloaded the game, activated the script, and reconquered syracuse, and this general who was a conqueror of cartage, roman hero etc. didn't gain nothing. this is just to ask, cause i remember in 0.74 if you conquer siracusa you gain some trait, but i could be wrong.

PPS:
im curious if there is someotherone, with a good general, "conqueror of somethink", with more than 3 command stars, that has experimented some strange ctd, if there is no one, than could be just my installation...