I Need Lessons!!!!

[Kavhan Isbul]

I am running the risk of going off-topic here, as I am not sure if my following comments will be any helpful to Indy1958, but I have found the Pope quite easy to assassinate, as he is usually a 0 rank commander, and a 4-star assassin has a 50% chance. Sending two 3 or 4 star assassins does not guarantee a successfull attempt, but you have a decent shot. Kings are harder to assassinate as they tend to have some command stars. Any ruler over 4 stars in mu opinion at least is pretty much invincible to assassins.

[Caerfanan]

I am running the risk of going off-topic here, as I am not sure if my following comments will be any helpful to Indy1958, but I have found the Pope quite easy to assassinate, as he is usually a 0 rank commander, and a 4-star assassin has a 50% chance. Sending two 3 or 4 star assassins does not guarantee a successfull attempt, but you have a decent shot. Kings are harder to assassinate as they tend to have some command stars. Any ruler over 4 stars in mu opinion at least is pretty much invincible to assassins.

There is something working pretty well: you send tons of assassin, from the same province to the same target, it usually works. If you send 3 which fail, you will usually have a tougher target afterwards. But if you send 15 and one succeeds, too late to have bonuses!

[caravel]

There is something working pretty well: you send tons of assassin, from the same province to the same target, it usually works. If you send 3 which fail, you will usually have a tougher target afterwards. But if you send 15 and one succeeds, too late to have bonuses!

The difficulty with the Pope is that Rome and the Papal States are usually border forted, so you may lose a lot of Valour 4/5 assassins before you actually get close to the target.

[Caerfanan]

The difficulty with the Pope is that Rome and the Papal States are usually border forted, so you may lose a lot of Valour 4/5 assassins before you actually get close to the target.

Well, I'm speaking from viking campaigns, on hard level (not expert yet. ). I have usually one province producing valoured up asassins (yes I'm speaking of quite "far" in the game"), and it does usually work, even if from time to time it doesn't. But using huge wave of assassins is efficient IMHO.

Of course, I wouldn't use "improved assassins" on such a "bandwagon and dangerous" task!

[Kavhan Isbul]

There is something working pretty well: you send tons of assassin, from the same province to the same target, it usually works. If you send 3 which fail, you will usually have a tougher target afterwards. But if you send 15 and one succeeds, too late to have bonuses!

Every time I do this only two really try to assassinate, and the rest get slaughtered by the border fort.

[Caerfanan]

Every time I do this only two really try to assassinate, and the rest get slaughtered by the border fort.

Then I might be lucky (computer random figures are surprising some times). I've been saved a couple of times from an impossible war by a clean (ahem.. massive) assassination of a royal line... It did cost tons of assassins (literally), but, excuse my french, saved my royal arse!

[caravel]

Every time I do this only two really try to assassinate, and the rest get slaughtered by the border fort.

Never send valour 0 - 4 assassins or spies through a border forted province, they will simply die before they reach the target. Even with a Valour 5 Assassin or spy I would send them in, pray, and if they do pull it off, get them straight out of there the next turn. Every turn they're in there the border fort and other counterspying agents have a go at catching them.

[EatYerGreens]

If you're in the mood for real cheese... (and I must emphasise that I've only ever theorised about this myself, never actually done it in a game because it's so absurd and doesn't suit role-play fans at all)...

you can get a v_5 assassin for around 1800 florins:-

1 x assassin @ 200 fl (preferably with starting stars from the alehouse etc)
16 x emissary / bishop @ 100 fl

Kill your emissaries one by one (on rare occasions, your assassin will die in one of the attempts and you'll have to start over).

16 kills is worth 5 stars, even for an assassin starting at v_0.

You now have the equivalent of a Guy of Gisbourne, reasonable chances of success versus border forts and at least a decent shot at the target.

Mind you, I've lost G-o-G himself before, on a stupid mission against a completely trivial, low-star target, so you still have a chance of completely wasting your money, in trying this. Not to mention the lives it cost...


And I don't know about you lot, but I still flinch (3 times), every time I hear the 'assassin captured' soundtrack...